James Healey Might be due to the fact that he beat Michael towards the end of his career, and that he beat Lewis in a season where he had multiple retirements/grid penalties due to engine failures.

On each of those years, Hamilton had more poles and wins, Hamilton was by definition unlucky to lose out that championship by engine failures.

LOL he's at a BOTTAS level or may be lil higher. Lewis had loads of things going against him that one season. If he was still in F1 Lewis would have had in strings

Schumacher was way past his prime and he only beat Hamilton because of his grid penalties and Malaysia

I mean hamilton and nico were friends at the very beggining of their racing carreer in karts and was pretty equal on their speed but then being regarded as a number 2 driver suddenly must really damaged him mentally in some way (watch yankeef1's video on "how to beat hamilton" and things are explained there)

Finally someone with brains.

All Nico wanted is to get the monkey off his back being the 'Son of a World Champion', riding the coattails off the great Keke's shadow. It wasn't fair for him of course, but for sure, he got a much easier path compared to others because of the connections. I wouldn't called his 2016 Crown 'lucky' because he truly had to work harder than he ever been. He sacrificed a lot more than he bargained for, including his own marriage at times, to spent every single second figuring out how to beat Lewis. Even as I said, the Sepang engine failure for Lewis while leading was the 28 points gap swing that ultimately decided the championship. But the winner each season often finds his own 'luck' in the end. So Nico's 2016 was truly deserved. I think the fans really wanted to see Nico compete in the 2017 season, myself included, because winning the championship is one thing. Defending is the different animal altogether. Lewis definitely wasn't surprised when Nico hung up his helmet only days after he took the trophy in Monaco. Nico even said it on Graham Benzinger's interview (available on UKposts). He had absolute nothing left, nothing to prove. Also the 2017 cars are much bigger, faster and heavier. They are absolute beast and Nico would be completely outclassed by Lewis. Nico has his own UKposts Channel these days and he is being candid. Even his retired colleagues who raced in other categories, such as Massa in Formula E, often joked how out of shape he was because he was complaining about his discomfort of driving a Formula E car at full speed after a few laps! So there are some truth to this. He was happy with his decision to retire and he is successful in his own business investments. It works out well for him. Like him or not, let's hope that he can be even more successful in his own endevours.

Very well said.

On point,u hear drivers sayin I don't worry about records etc etc,Nico didn't say it he proved it.well said

@@altonbreunissen1243 indeed

Yeap agreed, he never got the chance to beat him after he became the champion so it leaves it up in the air

That’s a good point, although I think Hamilton could probably claim victory in the team mate battle between the two. I mean Rosberg himself admitted that he had to sacrifice so much to beat Lewis in 2016.

J2f1 he also had quite a bit of luck with Lewis’ reliability. But you can’t take anything away from him, that’s part of the sport

It was already decided. You can't judge the head to head performances just on one season 'unless' that's how long that they had raced for. Certainly, most will rate Lewis among the Best currently. But probably with the likes of Fangio, Schumi, Clark, Senna and Prost when he retires sometimes in the future. He beats Alonso in his rookie season, drove Fernando absolutely insane that he had to resort to sneaky tricks, such as purposely stalling his car in Q3 at the pits to prevent Lewis to get a better time at the Hungarian GP 2007. This was not necessary for a 2 times defending World Driving Champion. Anyhow, even the best can be beaten. Even the legends can be beat by their own teammates. But it is the overall score that will count the most. Lewis got beaten once by both Jenson and Nico. Both World Champions I might add, but Lewis got the upper hand by 2:1 and 3:1 convincingly in his careers in their prime. We really didn't see it in Michael Schumacher, simply because there was a clause in his teammates that they could not be ahead of him unless he was behind or out due to retirement or mechanical issues. Honestly, we wouldn't know just how good Irvine, Barrichello, and Massa really were. As well, his teammates at Benetton could say similar things too. Simply because they weren't given equal cars or the team like Mercedes let the drivers fight in equal terms. Let's face it, Nico admitted that Lewis is a much better driver than he is. So there is nothing more to him than just proving he could win 'one' championship to ensure his legacy equaling his great father in 1982. He didn't want to forever living in that shadow forever. So he has to beat Lewis just one time. Congrats to him and he did well in 2016. Albeit that engine blown up in Malaysia for Lewis while leading was the critical factor.

Absolutely true, in the 2017 hamilton didnt get the battle he really wanted. Instead it was like he was just defending the WDC for Mercedes and for his win in 2015.

They swapped him and hamilton's machanics during the season It was fixed

Cheniie Baybiie therfore it was fair, not fixed

Jackie Tang Absolutely. Definitely one of the best F1 seasons to date. So many great moments from that season’s battle between Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton. Just too good of a battle throughout the year.

@@cheniiebaybiie4915 twat

@@WaveFlightSimulations Twat

Nope its all personal. The way you think of these living legend is all up to you.

@@HRM.H Well most people get over their bitterness when it's over. They are bitter about a good driver while he is racing, but then they get over it when he is gone and can appreciate their accomplishments and abilities.

Yeah because Lewis’s teammate is the least aggressive driver on the grid..

@Brendan McCallion - What talent? You mean Nico's awesome talented connections to Mercedes & F1 due to his F1 Champion father? Oh yeah such talent! LOL!!!

@@reachblowsdick7222 bro, talent to beat Hamilton , I don't understand why Nico is considered like this. Look at bottas now , You can understand how good Nico was to beat Hamilton. 4 years and nobody is able to beat Hamilton ,well with exception of Max. Now , George is in Mercedes, let see how good Nico was or how good George is.

he was going to study aeronautical engineering at the Imperial College London if he hadn’t been called up to GP2 in 2005.

This, in 2016 when drivers had limited info from the pit wall we saw Hamilton put in the wrong engine mode and just ask questions where as roberg figured out it was a faulty engine mode and just reverted the switch. Hamilton is a great driver but his biggest weakness has been understanding the technical side. This could cost him a race win or a future championship.

@@Uncharted_Lamb Okay this aged well - Baku 2021 moment

@@AllThingsRacing Wow, considering Baku would have givin him enough points to win the championship. Guess he really was right!

Vettel could have more of a chance if there was internal fighting within mercedes

That would have been truly amazing to see them battle. Just wish Alonso got a top car, him lewis, Nico, and Sebastien would have been an incredible battle. That's what i wanted to see.

@@Sebastian_Torr Not really because both years he lost the title by a large margin. The only real difference it makes is slightly closing the gap to Hamilton.

@@taliamason7986 but the psychology of the drivers would have also been different. hamilton would be more under pressure knowing his team mate beat him last year and now theres vettel chasing them

He said in his candid interview with Graham Benzinger. I would highly recommended watching the entire thing. Along with Lewis Hamilton and Niki Lauda, you will find out and piecing everything about Nico and Lewis' time at Mercedes. Nico admitted that he put all the eggs in the basket in 2016. In his own UKposts Channel, he went on and explained to the extent he was trying to keep his weight down. For example, his own helmet did not have the normal gloss finish as the standard ones with the F-1 pilots. He calculated that a coating or two off would shave hundredths of seconds from a lap. Over a race distance, that would probably be anywhere between half a second to seventh-tenth of a second. Still a margin between winning and losing. When you go into that extreme in the well, you wouldn't have anything left at the end. That's what he did. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pH6gqJ5pa35y0YE.html

I think he would have done really well compared to Kimi's second stint at Ferrari.

I've never liked Sauber ever since they dropped him for now Mercedes test driver Gutierrez who hadn't done anything since his GP3 days

I have to agree. A lot of other drivers were as well. The problem in this sport is that there are only so many good cars available each season. Formula 1 is never a 'spec car' series where drivers can race in equal cars. Each team must built their own car, otherwise, it wouldn't be called 'Formula 1'. So with many talented drivers out there. All of them won championships in their respective junior categories. Some got the chances and others simply did not. It might be just dumb luck, but most of the times, it is the often the best drivers driving the best cars. It has always been in this sport. However, the playing field was somewhat more even in the past. And I am talking in the 1960s and the 1970s, where without a huge budget, you can get an out the shelf Ford DFV engine and you can compete against the factory Ferrari and other teams with a relatively decent chassis. As a result, we saw teams like Ligier, March, Shadows and the bottom team claiming victories. We are hard pressed to see the last miracle of such happened back in 2008 when Vettel won in a wet and cold Monza track with a Toro Rosso, or Panis won in a mixed wet - dry Monaco track with only 4 cars finishing in 1996. Hopefully the cost cap reduction will make the racing better in the future. However, the best team will often wins.

I liked Kamui. He was quick and clean overall, unlike some drivers he took his chance to get a podium finish. The problem is that he came into F1 without sponsors so it was predictable that he would lose his drive at a stage. The final blow came when he got beaten by the pay driver Perez.

@@canicetang8837 The thing is fia always treats Driver's Championship as the most important when in fact F1 has been a team sports since the very beginning. Imagine football world regarded Fifa Balon D'or as more important than World Cup and Champions League. C. Ronaldo could only dream of winning best player award if he played at Watford. The same can be said about F1.

Preach *thumbs up*

Yeah, nobody appreciates that Rosberg didn't just get lucky. He had to give the 2016 season everything, he barely saw his family, he trained like mad. Lewis is a better natural driver for sure, but Nico put in work to close that gap.

@@doghat1619 people forget about the first few races, and even the end of 2015 (that started the title run). Plus, Rosberg absolutely did well in the Williams, and i doubt that many drivers would have done it. He has great in the merc, from start (2010) to finish (2016). He was almost flawless in that 2016 season, and thoroughly deserved that title

About Greatest of all time.....why he didn't won in 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016? Did he racing with cars in 1992 to 2004 with others in EQUAL cars ability? I am waiting your answer. I asking because someone from past racing (NOT Hybrid era) believe Max Verstappen will die 4 times if he racing like that with cars in past.

@@jarijaridewa there were no equal cars in 1992 to 2004 who told you that fairytale?

Pastor Maldonado u do have a lot of crashes😂

Pastor my guy, I've got a long list of videos still left to do but dw I haven't forgotten about you

you also won the Rolex 24 and the 6 hours of Spa my favorite drive from yours truly

@@jackietang3789 wait he is?

@@tilentgamer8758 yeah he won those races last year, the 6 hours of Spa one he had to drive the hell out of it

Yeah first Vettel dominated and than lewis. Rosberg is very strong but he was not as often first as he should be

Vettel is not an all time great. He’s just a midfield driver who lucked into a dominant car

teppana You're talking about Hamilton right? Thinking the Red Bull dominated 2010 or 2012 is ridiculous. Wasn’t even the best car on the grid unlike Mercedes

Dont give morons like him attention. Also in which world Hamilton a midfield driver?

JanikHimmelsbach Just picked Lewis bc of the mention of the car. Lewis is a top tier driver in a dominant car. Guess that sums it up better

Goated for that last part

@Samanthaflower People like u are literally the reason why i have no respect for most of the Hamilton Fans. U can bring the argument that it was a bit of luck involved the year Nico won his WDC but to say he "won by cheating" is probably the most ridiculous thing i have heard this year!

Jenson Button beat Lewis Hamilton 2011. But not in 2010 or 2012! Button had a high points score in 2011 so his points score was high. So Hamilton finished higher than Button 2-1! So next time lay all the facts out Aritra.

“Button had a high points score in 2011 so his points was high Well no shit Sherlock

I thinking he is on Kimis/ Hakinnen level. Better than villneue or Hill worse than Alonso

Hakkinen is way better than alonso and kimi and rosberg alonso only won bec of regualtions change and unreliable car of kimi

@@taykitrleevitt4314 He didn't need to race anymore, how is that suspect? He has enough money to retire and never work a day in his life. He achieved his childhood dream of becoming the WDC and unlike Hamilton he has a wife and children, a family to spend time with.

@@erikk17 Kimi is better than Alonso in my honest opinion. Kimi's victory wasn't in the most dominant car of the season, he might've only JUST won, but he won.

@@taykitrleevitt4314 Okay man, sounds like you're really projecting or something. I very much doubt you have any true understanding of the mindset or psyche of either Rosberg or Hamilton. This is probably the weirdest Hamilton fanboy post I've ever seen. "Comfortable in the skin of a champion" "A true great" Yeah.. okay dude..

He left the sport because he bought a championship and knew he had no chance winning one legitimately.

@@ChillySpunc What a stupid comment mate 😂

@@CarlosDiaz-qb4jj but let's be real

@@advancegalaxy4771 how did he buy a championship? he wasn't a pay driver right?

@@ChillySpunc care to explain pls?

Bottas will never be a champion because he is not fast enough, and he knows it, i would not say he lets them walk over him, if he cant prove that he is faster, what else can he do?

Lewis is just such a good driver, Bottas is one of the best drivers of all time but driving next to Lewis Hamilton. I really belive that.

@@BenetbenetLive Bottas one of the best of all time? Are you joking?

@@Leinis7777 he smokes some good shit

@@BenetbenetLive No mate you're wrong. I am one of the best drivers of all time, not Bottas.

Rowdy Smoke14 I have never underrated this driver if he was left alone to race he could beat any other Driver he encountered. Lewis Hamilton fan.

Agreed, I actually feel as though his career has mirrored Damon Hill's in a way.

@@saiyerugara9038 Good joke. Damon wasn't much better than Ralf Schumacher imo. Ralf outqualified Damon in just his second year in 1998.

@@chamindujanith6337 Did Ralf Schumacher ever win a championship and come 2nd twice?? Was R. Schumacher ever as good as Damon Hill was in 1994 much less 1996?

@@saiyerugara9038 Ralf didn't have a rocketship under him lol. Even during Hill's so called "prime" years a rookie DC was matching him in 1995😂😂 And Ralf would have outscored Hill in 1998 if Hill didn't cry over the team radio in 1998 Spa like a spoiled kid. Plus Senna outqualified Hill by over half a second every race he did in 1994.

@@chamindujanith6337 Well, part of the game is managing your career to get the best seats. We can say that about loads of drivers in their careers. Plus, I said in a way not exactly.

Truly, any driver that win championship deserve it tbh.

he did not won because of luck, he won because he was driving a mercedes. Anyone on the grid can win in a merc provided they beat their teammates!

@@dr.samlowry4808 In all fairness, the only season where Mercedes had a chance of not winning was 2018 and Vettel messed it up. (2017 Ferrari had bad luck).

@@dr.samlowry4808 I don't think it's as simple as 'ANYONE' can win in a merc if they beat their teammate, especially when your teammate would go onto be a 6 time world champion.

And you could argue from the butterfly affect, that Rosberg would have drove harder had Hamilton won (and be finished P4 because Seb spun him around), since Hamilton went on a winning streak just like Rosberg after USA 2015. The only championship I think where you can really claim the other driver deserved to win in recent memory was 2005 with Kimi Raikkonen.

It made the remaining race more intense.... Remember last part of the last race of 2016 season when Vettel closing on nico Lewis doing slower pace performance...? NICO fought for the championship that season like lewis the previous year....

@D3SH Interesting you say that. Who parked up in monaco 2014? nico. Who gave lewis a puncture from the lead in spa 2014? Nico. Who split the garage down the middle and whine about lewis having better mechanics? Nico. Who ignored double waved yellows in Hungary 2016 quali? Nico. Who was given lewis' technique for fuel conservation after he won 4 races in a row? Nico. Who ran lewis wide in canada 2014 start? Nico. Who ran his teammate onto the grass in spain 2016 while defending the lead? Nico So please please tell me why do you think lewis was the bad guy who started this? What narrative are you trying to spread? Alonso didn't do any those things and both he and lewis tied on points as teammates.

Hello Everybody Agreed, he managed to score points in the slowest cars in both seasons he competed in.

He was equal to Ericsson, who is known as one of the most notorious pay drivers in modern f1

@@teppana4421 He outscored Ericsson in equal cars in 2017

Did he even race enough to be rated? I do agree that he should be in F1. Steiner's explanation that him being away for a year and thus not suitable anymore is utter BS.

Yes Pascal Wehrlein definiely should have been still in F1. Really underrated

he lost to lewis for 18 years prior to his one wdc even when in the same jr team. doesn't sound great to me

@@blist8329 so? His final goal was to win the WDC, which he achieved. He was happy with achieving his ultimate goal and checked out. Definitely the most grounded and realistic driver

@Jurassic Mindset you said it. Only 2 overtakes in 3 years of being in the same car

@Jurassic Mindset Yes. He was asked to move aside in Singapore although both were fighting for the championship.

@Jurassic Mindset he is nowhere near Hamilton in terms of competitiveness. He can only be A wingman.

@saurab krishna You're probably new to the sport but in 2015 lewis outqualified and beat rosberg in 12 of the 13 first races!! That has never happened with bottas. Some perspective please. Bottas' 2017 season was actually better than nico's 2015 against lewis. Bare in mind bottas was new to the team and car. Nico on the other hand was in his 6th year. The same criticism bottas currently gets, nico had the same. Both drivers are comparable. There has been many races nico languished 20 seconds behind lewis.

@@Bahamuttiamat yes. I am new. I started watching from 2005. Wish I had watched from the SENNA era.

yeh and how... 1982 was Ferrari's to win.... Gilles & Pironi were masterclasses.

He is a lot better than his father

Right, but most of the video is explaining WHY he is underrated.

I was looking for this comment lmao

I'm not sure it Rosberg is actually better than Bottas. Because Hamilton was stepping up and way faster that Nico, even in 2016. Without his issues, Hamilton would've dominated Rosberg in 2016. He would've won at least 4 more races, probably 5 and these were all races Rosberg won.

@@djoetma I personally never take hypothetical situations into account. As Aldas pointed out throughout 2014-2016 Nico actually shaded the worst of the reliability issues. For sure Lewis is still improving every year but in terms of pure pace Nico has been the closest to Lewis other than Alonso as team mates.

@@M0t0r5p0rtN3rd He's wrong there. In 2014 it was kinda equal, but looking at the details, Hamilton had more issures: www.racefans.net/2014/11/25/hamilton-vs-rosberg-unreliability-decide-title/ In 2016 Hamilton definitely had more issues: www.racefans.net/2016/11/28/hamiltons-unreliability-stop-winning-title/ 2015 we don't even have to talk about, since Hamilton was champion a couple of races before the end.

@@djoetma Again my friend even the articles note that they are hypotheticals on how those reliability issues affected the results.

@@M0t0r5p0rtN3rd It's all hypothetical obviously, since something else didn't happen. The question is what the reasonable assumption is. Further, Rosberg didn't have an influence on Hamilton's mechanical issues, did he? The first four races would have to go really oddly, for Hamilton not to win those. It it was one or two races, sure, but four? Do you not thing he would've won at least one? But ok, lets say he wouldn't. Then would he not have won Malaysia? Are you getting my point?

He was really good I genuinely like nico however he had to cheat to get the win if he didn’t then he wouldn’t have won

Funny how fate works

Umm...Marquez was kinda nowhere TBH,Marquez was Sebastian Vettel and Rossi was Lewis Hamilton.

@@mystic5287 marquez entered the premier class in 2013 and since then he lost the championship only in 2015 wdym?

@@nickgiannopoulos8087 I meant only in 2015

Marquez lost 2015 because he was keep crashing, not to mention that rossi deserved the title in 2015 and not lorenzo

Il make sure to turn it down more the next time, apologies

@@Aldas001 thanks man maybe it was just me and my headphones, loved the vid still, Rosberg got me into F1 (cheering against Hamilton)

And it's nothing wrong with that.

Not comparable at all. He saw how much it took for him to do it and he just decided to leave. What's wrong with that? Not wanting the stress anymore?

And there’s no issue with leaving on a high. He accomplished his goals of becoming a world champion, and after that it was time to turn the page onto a new chapter in life, his family life. Makes him not only a great driver, but a great man.

Samanthaflower because as an F1 driver, you’re entire life is F1. As an F1 reporter, only a few days a month is F1. There’s a massive difference between the two.

Better than Lewis Hamilton ran away from England to Monaco because Taxes scandal. www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/06/lewis-hamilton-avoided-taxes-jet-isle-of-man-scheme-paradise-papers

AsRebel it does beg the question, did Mercedes help rosberg more in 2016 to the drivers title? Just strange how Hamilton had engine issues in 2016 but since 2014 he's had very few outside of 2016.

Is one WDC not enough to be considered one of the greatest drivers of recent years? Sure he can’t be ranked as good as Hamilton or Vettel as the true greats have won multiple championships, but he is still apart of that crop of legends.

DCPlays with that logic don’t you think that’s what they did for Lewis lol gtfo

WTF? He beat Schumacher too! The best drivers, in the same car and he beat both!

@@conceptualmessiah01 Schumacher way after his prime. That statistic doesn't say anything. And with Hamiltom he was lucky with the mechanical failures Hamilton had. Hamilton won more races and in the first four races and of course Malaysia is how Rosberg was able to get it.

If there was no Rosberg but Bottas in the Mercedes since 2014, Hamilton would be a 7-time WDC today.

If if if! If Verstappen was in a Mercedes then Hamilton wouldn't have as many championships. If Hamilton was in a Williams he would know being white isn't an advantage!

@@chowhar What is the relationship between driving Williams and not knowing that being White is an advantage?

@@chowhar Rookie Hamilton is better then Max

@@The_Honourable Raikkonen was the greatest rookie of all time. Lewis came from GP2, Max came from F3, Kimi came after winning 13/23 races in Formula Renault. from an 18 year old in karting to a Sauber F1 race seat in a year and a half. a year after that, Ron Dennis picks him up for McLaren.

Probably not, iirc he was burnt out or exhausted after his 2016 title win

@@jackietang3789 And it'll be alteast five years before a seat is empty, he would have lost his skill.

Prins van Oranje and plus latifi’s nicked his number lmao

Kim has the most bland personality ever.

L.GH. Djoetma you better take this down everyone will disagree.

@@keelanrice1470 Kimi is liked for being arrogant, a drunkard, weak personality who's been driving F1 just for the fun of it, not caring about performing and ok being a second driver. People like Kimi on a very selective basis. It's like the internet weaklings who don't like pineapple on a pizza just because social media told them not to like it. There was a time not everything got a standing applause, and people liking Kimi is just because people made in into this cult character. It's a self-made truth. Like Hamilton who supposedly says 'best fans' every race, which he only said once about the British (and 'best audience' in Mexico) according to many.

L.GH. Djoetma thats your opinion my friend I like Kimi cause he doesn’t care for the politics of F1 which he has said himself on multiple occasions he just likes driving people can like who they like

The skill gap is not small between Nico and Lewis lol, its a fair amount and since when did personality matter? We are talking about how good they are as drivers, but this is what Hamilton detractors stray into talking about personality to bolster their weak arguments lol

You’re forgotten....

If you have more points, then you deserve it. But he didn't beat Hamilton, since the reason he won had nothing to do with him performing better than Hamilton.

@@djoetma agree to disagree

@@RobJP94 You are disagreeing about facts. You can't 'beat' someone if didn't proof that you were better.

@@djoetma well he beat him in the only metric that counts, so I am not the one disagreeing with facts.

@@RobJP94 He scored better because his competitor was held back due to many mechanical issues. If Hamilton only had a little less bad luck, he still would've had way more than Rosberg, yet winning the WDC. Didn't beat him, he scored more.

I guess I am not recalling things quite correctly in regards to Nick Heidfeld. Actually looking back, he was in Formula One for a little over 10 years. I'm not sure if I'm not calling this correctly but I feel that he was never in a situation where his true talent was optimized. I think if Nick Heidfeld was in a better situations he definitely would have won more races.

1 3 0 5 5 oh dear

1 team winning 19/21 races hooray how exciting

AGREED

Agree, he could just turn it down some

yes it's horrible