Why Oswald Mosley turned to Fascism

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I'm NOT a nazi, NOT a fascist, or anything else. This video is discussing events or concepts that are academic, educational and historical in nature. This video is for informational purposes and was created so we may better understand the past and learn from the mistakes others have made.
This video shows how the failure of British politics in the 1920s and 1930s caused Oswald Mosley to turn to fascism in the hope of actually providing welfare to the British people.
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@blondswanson
@blondswanson Рік тому
I know the majority of your audience is here for war history and tanks and whatnot, but I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos on history of economic thought.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight Рік тому
I'm glad you're happy with the content! I feel guilty because I've not done a "tank" video in a couple weeks...
@spazz351
@spazz351 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight I love the variety.
@patrickday8067
@patrickday8067 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight I think this is where you shine, to be honest. I stumbled into you on an an-cap Reddit sub, and I’ve been hooked ever since. Maybe I’m alone, but I prefer you in these sorts of videos. Keep up the good work!
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Рік тому
If you want to do some tank videos.. then do them and take a break from the ideology videos.. remember you shouldn't geelong guilty...you owe no one anything
@Hippo_Hegemony
@Hippo_Hegemony Рік тому
​@@TheImperatorKnight im here for the ideology break downs. They took away our tanks so the pain is too much
@gaktaulagi3579
@gaktaulagi3579 Рік тому
I laughed when he said we need to start our story a bit in the past and then starts explaining feudalism
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Рік тому
Well ya gotta start somewhere
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому
Or at least how a modern Brit thinks that stuff worked. Life back then isn't quite what he thinks.
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@samsonsoturian6013 Start your own channel, mate. Where are you anyhow, "feudalism" wasn't the same across Europe, nevermind England. What we had is described as "Bastard Feudalism" which isn't at all the same thing.
@theskippy7
@theskippy7 Рік тому
@@a.nelprober-rl5cf I'd expect to hear something similar in a primary school playground,I suppose that's the stereotypical intellect of today's boys.
@empiregeof
@empiregeof Рік тому
Should we expect something else from a man who made a summary of Operation Barbarrossa and cataloged and discussed the moverment of every unit BY THE METER!?
@angelachouinard4581
@angelachouinard4581 Рік тому
I love your military historical analysis but I am just blown away by how thorough an understanding you have of economic politics and how logically and well you explain it all. You put several of my professors to shame. I have a history degree and I focused heavily on economics, as I think and your videos show, politics and economics are inseparable.
@johncharleson8733
@johncharleson8733 2 місяці тому
He sucks and your education must be piss poor if you think this video is any good.
@cedricworthingtonbroadaxe2287
@cedricworthingtonbroadaxe2287 Рік тому
This is an absolutely brilliant explanation of the ideological/economic failings of the Lib/Lab/Con trick political system responsible for the needless poverty of the 1920/30s; but which have continued to inflict similarly needless poverty upon the British Nation right through to the modern day.
@velraven8944
@velraven8944 Рік тому
It's VERY good to see you acknowledge the manipulative consequences of the left-right spectrum. I've been saying this for years
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Рік тому
And You were right Velraven
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Рік тому
It's never been left v right... us v them...its always been the individual against vs the state
@ragnarok283
@ragnarok283 Рік тому
🙋🏻‍♂
@velraven8944
@velraven8944 Рік тому
@@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 At the end of the day, fully boiled down, the only real political spectrum is individual vs collective. Social pressure vs healthy boundaries. People who think they know how you should live your life better than you do, vs people who love others enough to trust them to make their own decisions.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Рік тому
Left right spectrum in the mainstream media has just become Good people bad people. there really should be a better spectrum because its incredibly vague. Right wing is traditional and left is progressive. That is basically the actual definition but lets be honest its totally abused and all the worst people in history get lumped into the right despite being progressives.
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 Рік тому
The life expectancy of 35 years is obviously also linked to the high mortality rate of babies and children. He said that, but often people have the tendency to think that the majority of adults died at around 35.
@dr.paulwilliam7447
@dr.paulwilliam7447 Рік тому
I think that is actually included as child-death often was not recorded in dire times! However getting to the age of 20 (meaning as a woman you already had your first children) made it rather easy to follow on to an age of about 50-60, especially for men.
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 Рік тому
@@BigHenFor So I‘m not sure if I got your point but I’m not judging this whole concept of calculating life expectancy in the past like the 1700s. Rather, I just wanted to share this thought to make it easier to deal with the 35 years of life expectancy.
@LarsAgerbk
@LarsAgerbk Рік тому
I did
@WraithOfMan
@WraithOfMan Рік тому
Yes, this is a statistical effect - The *average* was lowered greatly by the sheer amount of young deaths, but for those who survived those early years you would expect to see lifespans into more like the 60s.
@unhippy1
@unhippy1 Рік тому
i read a old thesis paper years back about the mortality rate that was looking at the english mortality rate of the population that survived over the age of 10 years old between 1705 and 1905 based off parish death records.......it found that the median age of death of this section of the population was in their mid 60's.....and that for the same section of population it was not a lot different to when the thesis was written in the late 1930's
@scumnextdoor
@scumnextdoor Рік тому
Hi TIKHistory, I’d like to say I appreciate you for including references. I enjoy educational / infotainment type videos a lot but I hate how many don’t include references or sources for their information making it difficult for me to learn more about a subject. It also allows me to fact-check information to create my own opinion as well. More content creators on UKposts NEED to do this if they seek to “educate/inform” people on subjects.
@manuelviellieber4763
@manuelviellieber4763 Рік тому
I mean, this should be the bare minimum. After all, you’re citing from someone else’s work and nobody needs to trust you. As you said, that’s also part of educating.
@lilachie
@lilachie 10 місяців тому
Frank 😍
@williamlukesinclair1315
@williamlukesinclair1315 Рік тому
Claiming the fascism is right wing because it’s often nationalistic is about as stupid as claiming the Khmer Rouge and IRA were right wing since they were nationalistic and well. Another great video tik!
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Рік тому
You missed his point about the wings being meaningless. That doesn't mean that conservatism isn't a natural ally of nationalists.
@evenbet9603
@evenbet9603 4 місяці тому
By definition fascism IS nationalistic. Similarities between extreme opposites can be confusing.
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 4 місяці тому
@@greyfells2829 they are not an ally. the conservatives in america, canada and the UK do the same shit.. sabotage the nationalists as if they are their main competition. hell the CPC did that to maxime bernier here and then lost an election to trudeau (because ofcourse they lost to a guy who did blackface one time for every election hes been in)
@stipostipo2051
@stipostipo2051 4 місяці тому
The left and especially the communists are known for their anti-capitalism. Why do you think that the biggest capitalists during fascism in Italy or Nazism in Germany supported Mussolini and Hitler? When these men came to power, they did not ban these companies, they did not introduce strict regulations. On the contrary, this period became golden for these companies..
@pierren___
@pierren___ 2 місяці тому
Tho fashism doesnt have class hatred
@LarsAgerbk
@LarsAgerbk Рік тому
"Mostly peaceful protests" TIKhistory is becoming more and more of a comedic channel. I absolutely love it.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому
I just point out that all protests meet the legal criteria for "harassment" and that should be taken as the motive of protestor. That opinion got me kicked from Imgur due to literally dozens of people following just so they could abuse the report button. For weeks.
@LarsAgerbk
@LarsAgerbk Рік тому
@@samsonsoturian6013 when was that?
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Samson Soturian huh
@sorsocksfake
@sorsocksfake Рік тому
I chuckle, but then I dislike it in this setting. Comedy is a great value, but it is the partner force of analysis. They must be joined, but separate, so both can shine jointly. Comedy is by its nature light-hearted, self-depricating, and open-minded. Analysis is close-minded, heavy-hearted and must have a degree of confidence. In a society, comedians show that something is off. Analysts then figure out how it is wrong, and what needs to be done about it. Politicians then judge what can actually be achieved (unfortunately in practice, ensure it isn't). Analysis looks for answers. Comedy looks for questions.
@freeman8128
@freeman8128 Рік тому
The word is COMIC. "Comedic" is a pretentious invention.
@senry.
@senry. Рік тому
Very Interesting topic; it’s about time the establishment historians recognise the truth of ‘fascism’- and it’s basis in socialism. You’re doing a great job at exposing their ignorance. Thank you, TIK.
@YaBoiBaxter2024
@YaBoiBaxter2024 Рік тому
*Syndicalism it's a form of Socialism, but different in how it functions in seizire of the means of production and worker's participation in the economic sector.
@senry.
@senry. Рік тому
@@YaBoiBaxter2024 My apologies!
@YaBoiBaxter2024
@YaBoiBaxter2024 Рік тому
​@@senry. It's ok!
@bustercrabbe8447
@bustercrabbe8447 Рік тому
Fascism is anti-capitalist and anti-Marxist. Fascism is not socialism.
@deusvult836
@deusvult836 Рік тому
@@YaBoiBaxter2024 Socialism is the socialisation of the means of production, syndicalism is the socialisation of the means of production within syndicates, so syndicalism is a form of socialism, but it is not different from socialism since it is socialism. It is just one variant of the same thing, so it is 100% socialism. Socialism is an idea, not a system by itself, syndicalism is a system of socialism just like Marxism is, and they are both equally socialisms
@akaaccount
@akaaccount Рік тому
Such a shame that evil and/or stupid people rule the world.
@ikiyuz4344
@ikiyuz4344 Рік тому
then let us fight, strugle and debate for a better one
@sammorrissey9094
@sammorrissey9094 Рік тому
You can try and apply Hanlons razor, but it is too commonplace and too often to be sheer idiocy
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 11 місяців тому
maybe you're all evil and stupid and your only shield is weakness and the illusion you could do better if only you had real power
@DrSpooglemon
@DrSpooglemon 11 місяців тому
@@ikiyuz4344 We have nothing to lose but our chains!
@goych
@goych 10 місяців тому
It doesn’t, there’s just people in a whole lot of pain
@johnnydavis5896
@johnnydavis5896 Рік тому
It's Hegel's statist trap. The Hegelian Dialectic presupposes a statist worldview, and that way, regardless of left or right is "winning," - the state grows stronger and more dominant. Hegelianism is the overriding philosophy that produces all the statist ideologies of the left, right, and center.
@occidentadvocate.9759
@occidentadvocate.9759 Рік тому
My Grandmothers sister was born in Gateshead, England in 1914. She was born with Rickets. Which is caused by the Mother not getting enough to eat during pregnancy. Another ancestor give birth to half her children in the Workhouse. She died in a Newcastle Workhouse in 1910. Most of the Working class lived in abject poverty in Britain! It was like this for most till the 1950s, and 1960s in many places. Mosley given a chance might made a difference? Couldn't been much worse then those who did run the show? We will never know.
@kremepye3613
@kremepye3613 Рік тому
It's still a hellhole when it comes to working conditions tbh
@noreply-7069
@noreply-7069 Рік тому
@@flashgordon6670 Why do you keep spamming every comment with the same reply? Stop it.
@thetechnocrat4979
@thetechnocrat4979 Рік тому
Then there are stupid people from former colonies who hold every Brit accountable for colonialism and demand reparations. I am not a Brit myself but even a quick glance at history shows that the average Brit was suffering in hellish poverty even while Britain was a colonial empire.
@lamwen03
@lamwen03 Рік тому
The Great War devastated every major country that was involved in it, execpt the US. Then came WW2. Which was worse economically.
@jimmydesouza4375
@jimmydesouza4375 Рік тому
@@noreply-7069 Because it is important info and sadly a lot of TIKs viewers will take what he says on 100% regardless of how correct it is. I should add, spamming it the way he is, probably that's going a little TOO far, but it needs to be put out there pretty strong.
@canadious6933
@canadious6933 Рік тому
Thank you for bringing this up, as most of my history studying is in the middle ages and classical era, people really like to diss on the Industrial Revolution yet completely ignore the benefits.
@JamesMaximum
@JamesMaximum Рік тому
*hates on the Industrial Revolution via iPhone*
@isengard1500
@isengard1500 Рік тому
Industrial Revolution is such a fantastic time period; Really should have more hype
@Arkantos117
@Arkantos117 Рік тому
The same people that blame the British for the Bengal famine that wasn't even their fault but don't credit the British for ending the yearly famines that plagued India before their rule.
@yuvi3738
@yuvi3738 Рік тому
​@@Arkantos117 the Bengal famine was the fault of the British. As you say, india is no stranger to famine. And yet, the Bengal famine was so brutal. Why? Mismanagement, either through callousness or cruelty, I think the former.
@Arkantos117
@Arkantos117 Рік тому
@@yuvi3738 The Bengal Famine happened because local autonomous governments and aristocrats did not want to share their abundance as food prices were massively inflating after the Japanese invasion of Burma. There wasn't a total lack of food, food was just too expensive for the poor to buy. The only way the British could have solved it would be to take food by force from Indians to give to other Indians.
@00Snake77
@00Snake77 Рік тому
TLDR: All the political parties are on the same team and it's not yours.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Рік тому
If you don't pick a team, don't expect to get anything from anyone. This is the natural order.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 3 дні тому
Good grief... I've been subscribed for a long time to this channel but have somehow missed this video. It's as if this video was written just for me.... I've independently come to exactly the same conclusions that both you and LK Samuels have reached MANY years ago and have felt I'm going insane that no-one EVER publicly espouses this line of thought. This video has filled in some grey areas and cleared up some inconsistencies in my thinking, and for that I'm extremely grateful. Excuse me while I take back whats left of my sanity. Absolutely FANTASTIC rendering of an alternative perception to the chaos thats being wrought across the world today.
@EnclaveApex
@EnclaveApex Рік тому
Your Mosley series is going to be the key jewel in your complete coverage of the topic of Fascism imo. Mosley was intriguing for certain, both very familiar, but clearly the redheaded step child of particular groups all the same. Wait until people see you bring up his ideas for a "United Europe" and how familiar that concept is lol
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Рік тому
Sounds a bit like nato and the European (cough...soviet) Union
@ZoranZoltanous
@ZoranZoltanous Рік тому
Kalergi is another fascist adjacent individual that was instrumental in shaping the European Union.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Рік тому
Yeah moseley opted for a united Europe in 49' i believe. And to be honest its not that far from what the EU is becoming. They have been rattling on about Pan Europeanism for decades, and have some pretty weird youth programs.
@themanchestercollective3616
@themanchestercollective3616 Рік тому
​@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 the difference of course being that Mosley wanted a united Europe for Europeans while the EU wants it for a everyone but.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Рік тому
@@themanchestercollective3616 thats one of few.
@adamnogender565
@adamnogender565 10 місяців тому
Yes, your analysis of war is excellent and your analysis of political philosophy and economics is doubly excellent 👍
@whatadollslife
@whatadollslife 8 місяців тому
wow someone in England was able to afford more meat per year/per person in 1912 than I am in California in 2023, and I am a military veteran.
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 2 місяці тому
Mosely and his beautiful wife diana were the answer but no one listened. Now their predictions have now come true.
@jumbee9
@jumbee9 10 місяців тому
This is my new favorite channel. History and just history.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 Рік тому
One thing to remember is how few people in Britain had the vote in the 1800s. The Reform Act of 1832 increased the electorate from around 366,000 to 650,000, which was about 18 per cent of the total adult-male population in England and Wales. This added to the electorate small landowners, tenant farmers, shopkeepers, and householders who paid a yearly rental of £10 or more. Not as conservative as the aristocrats and large land owners, but not the working class either. The next expansion was the Reform Act of 1867. It still was based on property qualifications, and the number of adult males eligible to vote was two million. It wasn't until the end of WWI that the least well off working-class males, about 40% of adult males, gained the vote.
@Fanakapan222
@Fanakapan222 Рік тому
A cynic might suggest that a franchise that requires no qualifications other than majority is merely guaranteed to represent the opinions of those who cannot be arsed to take an interest beyond the gimmies, and to use a Mosley expression, 'Are blown hither and thither by every gust of transient opinion'. :)
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@Fanakapan222 Most of us are too busy living, mate.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Steve Watson yep
@hotleadcoldsteel2021
@hotleadcoldsteel2021 10 місяців тому
TIKhistory, This is eerily similarly like what is going on in many ways today. From my view point I can see the history repeating it self, just replace some of the historical persons with today's Politicians, being canceled, not allowed to have a descending voice, critical idea/thought, or able to leave the left. Also nice job with the Ouroboros explanation.
@michaelhorning6014
@michaelhorning6014 Рік тому
When the poor were struggling and dying out of sight in the countryside all was well. When industrialization pulled the poor into the cities, the poverty was much less, but it was more visible in the cities.
@Britannica1
@Britannica1 Рік тому
Mosley just sounds like a socialist who is not trying to lie to me.
@themanchestercollective3616
@themanchestercollective3616 Рік тому
He was a patriotic right wing socialist opposed to left wing globalist fascism.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
Yeah
@osamaobama
@osamaobama 11 місяців тому
Mosley was basically right about everything
@pleb7612
@pleb7612 Рік тому
you really shouldnt say that youre not a racist fascists nazi or anything like that. dont make them force you to say things. dont give into them. dont say what youre not, when you do in a small way theyre winning. they see blood in the water and will know theyre influencing you and will come back for more and over time they will further and further influence you.
@occidentadvocate.9759
@occidentadvocate.9759 Рік тому
100% correct!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight Рік тому
It's actually for the UKposts censors, not the audience. I don't really care what my critics call me anymore. I've given up with them.
@juniorvonclaire3576
@juniorvonclaire3576 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight And you’re not being forced.
@vegvisirphotography5632
@vegvisirphotography5632 Рік тому
Whenever anyone calls me racist, Bigoted, nazi etc? I simply pull down my zip and reveal to them, 10 masculine and girthy inches. Quickly silences them without a word spoken.
@RK-zo9vs
@RK-zo9vs Рік тому
A nazi loves all races, they should just remain in their own countries!
@yggdrasil9039
@yggdrasil9039 8 місяців тому
One of the best videos, and great analysis going right back to the Age of Enlightenment and tracing these economic ideas through the industrial revolution to the 20th century. Great stuff, very original perspective. Don't agree with everything, but your point of view is so well argued and clear, especially on the artificiality of the spectrum. You should turn this into a book.
@gregpaul882
@gregpaul882 Рік тому
Benjamin Disraeli. Classic British name there.
@lonjohnson5161
@lonjohnson5161 Рік тому
Statements like, "They're all the same," when it comes to political parties aren't very helpful. To say that Mosley may have seen them as all the same is useful in showing his disillusionment; however, in general it does little to explain why one party will defeat another.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
Well his whole shtick is 'actually the market can do no wrong"
@burnvictim77
@burnvictim77 Рік тому
True, but I think TIK's speaking in a narrow sense. Not that they are literally the same in every respect, but as it regards using the straight to restrain the market and trample individual rights, they all agreed on doing that. Of course, they used different rhetoric to defend similar policies.
@Guerillatoker
@Guerillatoker Рік тому
@@burnvictim77 The reason it isn't a useful statement is because any party, if it aims to one day be the leaders of the state, has to "restrain the market" and "trample individual rights" because there is no such thing as a free market or rights without a state. It's a paradox originating from nature itself; the market is always restrained by natural forces (geography, time etc) and there's no such thing as a natural right. What the state aims to do (whether successfully or not) is alleviate these natural inevitabilities by organising society in a manner so the forces are distributed more or less equitably, depending on their goals.
@burnvictim77
@burnvictim77 Рік тому
@@Guerillatoker Clearly not all states are equal in this regard. As TIK stated, the Liberals of the 1850s-60s were substantially pro-liberty, though far from an-caps, in his own words. So it is possible to have a party with a substantial different from this paradigm, even if there is never going to be a complete freedom of the market.
@Guerillatoker
@Guerillatoker Рік тому
@@burnvictim77 I agree, I was just expanding on why I think it is still worthwhile acknowledging the distinctions between parties, as “they all want to tax you and take your rights” is ultimately too reductive.
@shelbyspeaks3287
@shelbyspeaks3287 Рік тому
Oswald was the most gameriest gamer of all time...
@YaBoiBaxter2024
@YaBoiBaxter2024 Рік тому
He might have been a better leader for Britain, considering how it's going for us now.
@CharlesLumia
@CharlesLumia Рік тому
​@@YaBoiBaxter2024 seems like a reasonable conclusion
@jimc.goodfellas226
@jimc.goodfellas226 Рік тому
Based
@yochaiwyss3843
@yochaiwyss3843 Рік тому
​@@YaBoiBaxter2024nah fuck that. It's good that Germany got stuffed.
@occidentadvocate.9759
@occidentadvocate.9759 Рік тому
Quite admired Mosely. My Father was a supporter of his in the early 1960s. Moselys biggest mistake When he founded his "British Union of Fascists" in 1932, was the name itself. Using a name with Foreign connotations was a big mistake. Ditto with calling his protection force "Black shirts". Not sure if his Pro Monarchy leanings helped him win the Working Class support he hoped to get? If he had simple called his Movement "The Nationalist Party" or Something like "The British Peoples Party" he would had a better chance of gaining more support. His Protection Squad should been simply called that.
@morningstar9233
@morningstar9233 Рік тому
Was expecting outrage in the comments. Reassuring to see the 3 dozen I scrolled found your assessment even handed and educational. Thanks for shedding more light on this history of which my knowledge is limited. More power to you Tik.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Рік тому
That was an unexpected and surprisingly deep dive into the history of british politics and economy.
@CB-vt3mx
@CB-vt3mx Рік тому
Tax policy is one of the strangest things in existence. In the US, both parties are pro high tax RATES. But neither is pro high tax PAYMENTS. The thing that all parties in all nations seem to have in common is the lip service to "the people" which the average working class hears and thinks of themselves, not realizing that the politicians mean themselves.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight Рік тому
The "people" are the "public", and the "public" sector is the state. So yes, when the politicians say they're "doing it for the people", they mean themselves. I've tried to explain this in my public vs private video, but it's surprising how many people rejected this, even though it's clear that that's exactly what they're doing.
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight It is frustrating; but we all do it. You can see thru Halder's distortions but similar distortions of the "Table Talk"? We are all great at bursting others bubbles; our own, not so much. The first person we fool is ourself. Plenty of work has been done by psychologists on how difficult it is not to go along with outright nonsense if everyone around you is hellbent on nonsense and you don't even know you aren't being allowed to see otherwise. After seven or so years of almost everyone going along with barking wibble since it dawned the Donald might actually win the primary and we actually might see off the EUrine, and the even more accelerated and accentuated daft of the last three years; it is actually surprising how many folk have accepted your argument or accepted that you have an argument. I'm surprised you find it surprising you get vehement pushback; especially when you point out how suspiciously often things go tits up and what progress we've been making suddenly goes into reverse. You are fighting human psychology and several ruddy great arses, nevermind a thumb, on the scales.
@posham219
@posham219 Рік тому
Tik, you can the only reason I look forward to Mondays, thank you so much for all you do.
@posham219
@posham219 Рік тому
​@@flashgordon6670 I think you posted your comment on the wrong comment
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@posham219 He's a spammer. I'm only seeing his comment because it is misplaced, LOL!!!
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@flashgordon6670 You have an attention span that makes goldfish look good. I rest my case and hope this helps. /s
@vaughncollins1386
@vaughncollins1386 Рік тому
Your videos are incredibly interesting and I love to hear you analyze these radical political movements with nuance. Keep it up!
@mranonymous2642
@mranonymous2642 Рік тому
I live for these kinds of videos.
@brandonkelusky2493
@brandonkelusky2493 Рік тому
You should cover adrien arcands national unity party in Canada during the 1930s.
@irvinmartin9259
@irvinmartin9259 Рік тому
Why?
@irvinmartin9259
@irvinmartin9259 Рік тому
@@rickjones7977 An irrelevant entity, in an irrelevant country.
@va3svd
@va3svd Рік тому
Canadian, here. I think it’s more worthwhile to study Fidel Castro Jr’s current movement here.
@rickjones7977
@rickjones7977 Рік тому
Trudolf.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Rick Jones if that was the case he wouldn't be importing China and India and outlawing religion in favor of gay sex
@FriggaRedSkye
@FriggaRedSkye 10 місяців тому
I'm so glad someone like you has as many subscribers as you do. I'm worried people are running away with themselves and getting triggered by political narratives when history should be studied in an unbiased way.
@aurelioboi
@aurelioboi Рік тому
A big reason why people moved into cities was also the enclosure movement in England. obviously this was not the case for all of the movement but it's a little bit dishonest to act like it was just a free market, opportunity cost decision when people literally had their lands taken from them.
@nicholascarter9158
@nicholascarter9158 Рік тому
And given to wealthy British nobles to.. build factories on!
@johnnymematik8649
@johnnymematik8649 Рік тому
"I'm not left or right, but Dickens is socialist propaganda." Yeah right bro, I hear you.😅I'm not black or white. I'm beige.🤣
@gooch2006
@gooch2006 Рік тому
where are you based in the UK and do you do school visits for history? (*I'm thinking Year 6)
@johnhanson5943
@johnhanson5943 11 місяців тому
Remarkable. I discussed this last night with my son. A good analysis. I also agree the deliberate Left versus Right fog is just that. More so today than in the past, however. It is also remarkable that the new fascism of today (Green-Red-Woke) camouflage is backed financially by many of the same oligarchic/ruling establishment families which backed the old fascism - and indeed also various other wars, Revolutions, fanatical and deranged movements/ideologies and a transfer of more wealth from the working people (lower and middle class) to the ‘Supremacist Clique / Cabal’. Hence, had Mosley existed today, he well have been in the Labour/Lib/Green/Tory party and pushed Oligarchic dystopia under the guise of wanting to do good for the masses (normal people > 99%). Over privilege breeds contempt, mysticism instead of logic / science / progression, sociopathic behaviour and also, unfortunately, psychopathic trends. History clearly shows us this clearly. Indeed recent history shows us this. Here in Germany, 70 % have learned nothing from recent history and de facto fascism in imperial, National Socialist and now US/WEF-UN/EU type. Mostly, it is the East Germans who can still spot a pig dressed up as a ballerina.
@leqtix4391
@leqtix4391 10 місяців тому
ur insane
@MrBropocalypse
@MrBropocalypse 5 місяців тому
Modern fascism is just fascism. It's a guy on a state-sponsored concert pretending to nuke the US. It's a bunch of cops and used car salesmen trying to launch a coup on the US government. It's the belief in the Nation as a deliberately amoebic and nebulous thing that can be molded to manipulate people without consideration for who it destroys, openly.
@gageyoung2111
@gageyoung2111 9 місяців тому
I’m glad you’ve seen the light on the reality of things here. We will continue to be conned for the forseeable future.
@mariofurtado3458
@mariofurtado3458 Рік тому
Excellent. I've always wondered why I hated politics. American definitions may be slightly different, but you make amazing points. Thanks
@CB-vt3mx
@CB-vt3mx Рік тому
I grew up on a family farm. To be frank, though we did not starve, we were always poor. The farm was...well...shitty. Literally. Cows, chicken, pigs, ducks, etc all shitting everywhere all the time. The water came from a well that was under the land the shit was all over. Dad stopped farming and went to work at a factory. We never had so much money. We stopped farming the land, stopped raising our own animals except for FFA and 4H projects, and leased the majority of the land to another farmer. We sold out to another family member in the late 70s, moved to town and never looked back. My dad was the first person in his family to live past 60. People can wax poetic about the "idyllic" life on the farm, but that is such patent BS, no actual farmer could tolerate it.
@darthcalanil5333
@darthcalanil5333 Рік тому
My grand father was a farmer. His mission in life according to him was to suffer back breaking work in order to allow his sons and daughter to get good education and find better jobs and better life than the farmer's life.
@long-hair-dont-care88.
@long-hair-dont-care88. Рік тому
If you seek freedom fram life is best life you can't exit the system without food production ability.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok Рік тому
haha ..true that !
@lamwen03
@lamwen03 Рік тому
Country life is just dandy. Farm life is an unending grind. Even today, with all the mechanization available, a family I'm following routinely work 12 to 14 hour days when the weather permits. Often more.
@davejob630
@davejob630 Рік тому
@@lamwen03 Even just keeping the weeds under control, the firewood for winter cut, the tree's trimmed and bushfire fuel cleared away is almost a full time job on 40 acres, let alone controlling the rabbits, keeping the fencing maintained, the vege garden free of pests, weeds, and the fruit trees clear of birds....those folk who idealise the country self sufficient lifestyle have next to no real life experience IMHO.
@Lusa_Iceheart
@Lusa_Iceheart Рік тому
As an American, the first part of the video breaking down what "conservatism" means in a British sense was very, very helpful. Here in the US, we've had a Free Market, pro-individual rights, anti-big government society since the beginning, so our "conservatives" are trying to conserve that system, whereas in Britain, ya'll have a completely different set of values your conservatives are trying to "conserve". So despite sharing the same term, our conservatives and your conservatives are not actually natural allies. Over here, our biggest problem is our leaders have to play a statists game, so when they are in Washington DC for 30+ years, they become part of the statist system rather than a representative of their anti-statist constituents. I mean, how many of us Americans vote for someone only to be disappointed that our candidate just became a cog in the same broken machine we sent them to fix? IMO, we need to stop trying to fix the machine, we need to take a sledgehammer to it and dismantle it. One page bills- "X department of the Federal Government will dissolve on Dec 31st this year" ect. No repealing and replacing, just repealing and shredding. If it has a three letter acronym, it's gone. Dismember the Federal Government on a wide scale. Actually honor the 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 10th Amendment. I'd argue that even the 3rd Amendment is being violated right now, the NSA is in my home watching what I do, why is that fundamentally different than a quartered solider sitting with my family at the dinner table? Think about, some asshole at FT. Meade is in your home, permanently watching you with a HELL of a lot more snooping power than a normal human has. Abolish it all, even if we're "less safe"; but guess what Freedom is risky inherently, personal responsibility is risky. If you actually believe in freedom, you're against the State.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Рік тому
Yes I also want to see America divided and weak
@Carlin2810
@Carlin2810 11 місяців тому
The best part about you Americans is they way youre more than happy to let people die because they cant afford healthcare & you demand it stays that way. Americans are great people.
@MrBropocalypse
@MrBropocalypse 5 місяців тому
American conservatives love social control, military spending, and repression of individual rights. You're insane.
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 4 місяці тому
@@Carlin2810 lol im canadian and id give up "free healthcare" to be an american without needing even a second to stop and think about it.. MAID is the smoking gun that proves the americans have always been right on government healthcare being a bad idea..
@robwashers
@robwashers 4 місяці тому
Hi, try this book ... 'A People's History of the United States' by Howard Zinn. gl from the UK
@Patrick-vh5nr
@Patrick-vh5nr Рік тому
Thanks TIK great vid!
@chaseiscekcy
@chaseiscekcy 6 днів тому
This is the best video on our political state ever
@jonathanpersson1205
@jonathanpersson1205 Рік тому
Industrialisation was not the only reason for the huge drop in child mortality and child poverty from the mid 1700’s to the late 1800s. There was also major social change change in this time period There were several Christian revivals in this time. The christian moral standards adopted by most of society led to a huge drop in fatherless children. It went from 40% of children born outside of marriage to less than 10%. Fatherlessness is the major factor in child poverty, child abuse and poor outcomes in life.
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
Xtians are too much invested in their own bollocks, tah but no tah.
@igoralmeida9136
@igoralmeida9136 Рік тому
source: trust me bro academy
@buddyrojek9417
@buddyrojek9417 Місяць тому
You are right. We return to the natural norm , like Africans
@ramixnudles7958
@ramixnudles7958 Рік тому
I have to take issue with one of your statements. The status quo of the conversations was to... "To PREVENT the poor from IMPROVING their standards of LIVING"? I would need some hard evidence that anyone goes out of their way to PREVENT someone from improving their standard off living. Not want to spend effort to HELP someone else, I could understand, but, to *actively* PREVENT? NEED MORE INPUT...
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
The amount of input doesn't matter if you lack the horsepower to process it.
@ramixnudles7958
@ramixnudles7958 Рік тому
@@stevewatson6839 Where we're going, we don't need horses. Nurses would be nice. Candy stripers, too.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
Huh
@philliprandle9075
@philliprandle9075 11 місяців тому
Can't wait for the next one
@stumac869
@stumac869 Рік тому
What a great piece which makes more sense than the old left/right argument. We seem to have gone full circle with 'stakeholder capitalism' and Conservatives taxing us to the hilt with artificially high energy and food prices as a result of net zero policies. Far better to measure political parties based on free markets (red tape / regulation), cost of living (inflation), individual rights and taxation (direct and indirect) etc. On that score all mainstream parties score badly.
@connormcqueen3633
@connormcqueen3633 Рік тому
Just a comment on Thatcher. While yes the poll tax in itself was a terrible idea, wasn't it bought in to replace another evil tax which is council tax? The better solution is to get rid of council tax altogether and allow private companies to compete for bin collection services. Also she was the best conservative PM in history IMO (obviously the standards are not very high). Had she not bought in the reforms in the early 1980s the UK would have plunged into a Greek style economy. She also had a massive battle on her hands because whenever she tried doing anything remotely radical and free marketish, both her own party and the public would be in uproar. Thatcher was not voted in because of her free market beliefs, she was voted in because the country was sick of 1970s socialism... She was extremely unpopular early on and was only saved by the Falklands. She unfortunately became more statist in her later years in office which was a shame. This just tells me if the people cannot even tolerate minor Thatcher market reforms with some deregulation, then those who want a true free market in Britain are dreaming.
@Mitch93
@Mitch93 Рік тому
It just means that pro-free market people need to learn from the statists and get better at propaganda and convincinng people. Also, to grow a backbone and stand firm for their convictions and beliefs without compromise.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight Рік тому
"The better solution is to get rid of council tax altogether and allow private companies to compete for bin collection services." Bravo! That's precisely what I've been saying. - "Had she not bought in the reforms in the early 1980s the UK would have plunged into a Greek style economy. She also had a massive battle on her hands because whenever she tried doing anything remotely radical and free marketish, both her own party and the public would be in uproar." I do agree with that assessment. From her point of view, she was in a tough position, and she inherited a country that was on its knees. However, my point is to say that she's not what people perceive her to be. And if people take their emotions out of the equation and look at the facts, yes she closed the mines, but the industries she supposedly "privatised" weren't really privatised. The railways are still owned by the government via their corporation: National Rail. It's only nominal privatisation, not actual. And she introduced the Poll Tax, which is obviously a tax increase.
@connormcqueen3633
@connormcqueen3633 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight all true... There were so good reforms made to the financial sector and she did give some pretty good speeches. I think her and Reagan were great speakers but could not pull the trigger when it mattered most. I would still take both over the shower of shite we have today on both sides of the pond.
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
Poll tax replaced the domestic rates; council tax "replaced" the Poll Tax. More like put a pair of knickers on it imho! The Domestic Rates if I recall properly were a part of Liberal governance before they went off the deep end.
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Рік тому
@@TheImperatorKnight Her better ideas were just watered down Powell. I'd be interested in hearing your take on John Enoch someday.
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 Рік тому
Mosley was never a 'Lord' he was a hereditary Knight, a 'Baronet'. Being a member of the very wealthy landed gentry he really had very little to do. So politics was his hobby. The Mosleys had a great deal of property and also a small village in South Lancashire. That village grew quite a bit and its people wanted to improve their political status against the Lord of the Manor and held a demonstration which was put down by the County Magistrates in 1819. However, the local people even managed to get itself a couple of MPs as a new 'reformed' Parliamentary Borough under the 1832 Reform Act. Then in 1835 they got themselves Borough status under the Municipal Corporations Act. The problem was that the Land Lord of the Manor owned most of its territory, so the new council negotiated a buy-out from the Mosleys. The old main street of this village is 'Mosley Street' and the price agreed with the Mosleys for the land was .... £800,000 in 1838 - do the math for today's value. Oh, the village is called 'Manchester'.
@themanchestercollective3616
@themanchestercollective3616 Рік тому
And proud of him.
@Fanakapan222
@Fanakapan222 Рік тому
@@themanchestercollective3616 Hmmmm. Proud ? For so many years Mosley was the turnip ghost of British politics, probably due to so many big political names of living memory having flirted with him whilst they were still on the way up ? I'm amazed that TIK has so many works covering the Mosley phenomena, its maybe a sign that he has passed firmly into the historical and therefore unthreatening realm, thus enabling a full examination.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Fanakapan222 if that was the case Fascists wouldn't be arrest more than ISIS veterans in the UK
@frankd5426
@frankd5426 9 місяців тому
so far i am at 36 mins and can only think. 100 years later and nothing has changed . the essence of the 1920s is the same today and here we are just hoping for a new party. as the old ones are failing the country
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 9 місяців тому
Perhaps I'm pessimistic, but I think any new party will either be suppressed or become corrupted, and be the same as the current ones
@bigfoot8103
@bigfoot8103 Місяць тому
Party pooper!
@captainiceberg8637
@captainiceberg8637 9 місяців тому
In Peaky Blinders Mosley was performed beautifully but written diabolically.
@lucidmoment71
@lucidmoment71 4 місяці тому
Peaky Blinders is a travesty of history.
@anandm4748
@anandm4748 7 місяців тому
From an objective standpoint, Sir Oswald Mosley was right. I've seen more and more Britons on the internet saying this, especially lately. Ww2 destroyed the British empire and turned the British isles itself and all western Europe into American vassals. Britain should have just quit the war in July 1940, accepting Hitler's last official peace offer. Then Britain could have just focused on defending the empire, and fulfilling that 19th century ideal which was popularized again by Oswald Mosley; that of turning the Empire into a Global Imperial Federation.
@EdLemieux
@EdLemieux Рік тому
I absolutely love when I believe something to be true and then somebody steps in and turns my thought process upside down. Thank you very much. Subscribed and look forward to devouring your library and more videos you make. ❤
@HermitagePrepper
@HermitagePrepper Рік тому
When you look at 3rd position politics where shares of stock are sold exclusively to the worker of said company, it makes a lot of sense. Similar in operation and stability to tbe modern day Credit Union. Its straight forward and has very few moving parts. Also, such an enclosed autarkic "syndicalist" economy would prevent external and international interests from meddling in domestic economic affairs. You can still have low taxes, small government and technological advancement while at the same time giving the workers a greater piece of the pie and a bigger voice in the board room. With their own personal wealth on the line, the stock holding workers will perform their jobs well so as to collect the maximum dividend from their labor efforts.
@Carlin2810
@Carlin2810 11 місяців тому
You realise thats pretty much the core tennants of Marxism right,the workers owning the means of production & worker co-ops.
@sirwence9949
@sirwence9949 14 днів тому
"Just get a room will ya" xD that was perfectly delivered - Great video Sir.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Рік тому
What was mentioned about farmers was not entirely accurate, because depending on what country in what latitude ,farmers lived and worked in tune with the seasons. Hence in northern Europe, farmers were not doing back breaking work during the winter. Most likely they were at work with domestic crafts, since they had stored and preserved food,( smoking, salting, and pickling)for the winter.
@HawkThunder907
@HawkThunder907 Рік тому
Misinterpreting things like Fascism was not the work of nowdays people, it was the work of the Denazification plan after WW2. And Fascism is "bad", but its a word for everything somebody doesn't like and that's weird for me. I'm not a fascist, neither communist, I see no ideology perspective and a neutral one is for me good enough.
@shelbyspeaks3287
@shelbyspeaks3287 Рік тому
Fascism really isn't "bad", compared to communism fascism did have a point and was kind a precursor to the "we live in a society" way of think that's became popular through media.
@HawkThunder907
@HawkThunder907 Рік тому
@shelby speaks yeah, I said "bad" because you know why but I will fix it
@lentulus01
@lentulus01 4 місяці тому
Thanks for the stats. I had not made that link, but I had always believed that when my great grandparents moved from fishing villages to coal mines they were not complete idiots.
@fat4eyes
@fat4eyes Рік тому
You should tell the aristocracy in Imperial Russia that their revolution accomplished nothing and the elites stayed in power. I am as anti-Communist as the other guy, but the real threat of having their stuff taken and their heads cut off was the thing that balanced the concentration of power in the elites of the west in the 20th century. It is the dominance of a single ideology (whether left OR right) that creates the excesses, and it is competition and balance that limits them.
@johnnyjohn-johnson7738
@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 Рік тому
The Bolsheviks to my knowledge were complete outsiders, the mainstream "revolutionaries" and "radicals" in Britain on the other hand were all aristocrats or at the very least rubbing shoulders with the crown.
@erikschultz7166
@erikschultz7166 Рік тому
Mussolini was held up as a success by politicians and the press on both sides of the left/right.
@snuscaboose1942
@snuscaboose1942 Рік тому
5:30, no, the real political spectrum does exist, rule of law vs rule of might. Most Socialist and National Socialist doctrines are based on the rule of might with some flavor of ethnic/racial divide, not equal rule of law. Rule of law requires as a base that all people in a society are equal before the law, with no free pass for dictators, corruption, race, and ethnicity.
@WillArtie
@WillArtie Рік тому
this is my 3rd try at this vid - fell asleep or got distracted previously. this time I will absorb!! edit - holy crap..
@nilo9456
@nilo9456 Рік тому
TIK, thank you for a very clear exposition of Oswald Mosley's political influences. I knew of him, but as you say, most accounts of Mosley's life focus on his activities as a Fascist. Your critique of the English Liberal party cleared a confusion I'd had, ie: The apparent shift in what liberalism ment/means, thank you. Your longer riff on the stateist nature of government is something I want to ponder. I've long known that there's no essential difference between Democrats and Republicans here in the States. So your remarks don't surprise me, even though I hadn't thought about the matter in those terms. Thank you for a thought provoking video.
@burnvictim77
@burnvictim77 Рік тому
It's a little dishonest to say there no essential difference between the Dems and Pubs, and more accurate to say that the differences between them don't substantially impact the amount of the liberty their ideologies could, in practice, provide.
@nilo9456
@nilo9456 10 місяців тому
You have a point. I think there's little to no difference between what you say and what I say. My earlier remarks are meant to highlight the remarks TIK made in this presentation. Both the Republicans and Democrats are completely stateist, therefore my comment stands. The difference that I see is that I now see the major struggle is between the individual and the state. I do not see how what I said is dishonest in the context of state and individual. Of course, this is my view and you are entitled to your own view. Thank you for your remarks.
@bartsanders1553
@bartsanders1553 10 місяців тому
"But so soon as anyone, be they an individual or an organized interest, steps outside those limits, so that his activity becomes sectional and antisocial, the mechanism of the corporate system descends upon him." -Oswald Mosely, founder of the British Fascist Party
@powerdegre
@powerdegre 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the video. I have been trying to locate something about early conservativism but I found it really hard, as you say, for some reason everyone seems to believe that they are the laissez faire party, which gave me the impression and I was convinced that there were so at least until Tatcher, but so many things were not adding up... works out that it all turned into the Uniparty well over a century ago and nobody picked up on it.
@JeanDeaux-uj5cg
@JeanDeaux-uj5cg 8 місяців тому
Tik your history lessons make me a better person
@officialjbbeverley
@officialjbbeverley Рік тому
Your videos are informative and well-referenced. So sad that you have to disclaim to avoid being attacked. Sign of the times - a poor one. Cheers.
@Muerte1917
@Muerte1917 Рік тому
Its good he’s not a fascist. all fascist are scum
@rankoorovic7904
@rankoorovic7904 Рік тому
Virtually every country in Europe had his Oswald Mosley in the 1930's and 40's the only difference was how successful they were in gaining power.
@johnnyjohn-johnson7738
@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 Рік тому
Eoin O'Duffy was like what an Irish version of Mosely played by Mel Gibson in a movie's alternate reality would be.
@stumbling
@stumbling Рік тому
Brilliant work! Now I have to figure out how to share this without triggering the idiots.
@chrissedaka8141
@chrissedaka8141 Рік тому
The share button near the top of the page offers one means. Copy-pasting the url is another. Idiots triggered by fact will always be triggered, but people seeking to be informed will appreciate it. Don't allow the latter to be denied by appeals to the temperaments of the former.
@themig71
@themig71 Рік тому
Well said.
@chrissedaka8141
@chrissedaka8141 Рік тому
@@themig71 Thank you.
@knockemoutjohnjustjohn2763
@knockemoutjohnjustjohn2763 Рік тому
This video once again shows me that many things I assumed were wrong. As an American I have always been conservative, pro free market ect. I despise communists, socialists, fascists and racists of every stripe. I want small government. I also think that as a Christian I need to put my money where my mouth is and aid others. I mostly give to two Jewish groups. The I.F.C.J. and One for Israel. I love Niel Oliver and wish he could run for office here. Also love English literature and mysteries. I read, hunt and fish while watching the world turn batcrap crazy around me. My wife and my cat both think I'm a bit dense. I can live with that. Great video! From Iowa...............John
@freddiecawston2892
@freddiecawston2892 Рік тому
I've never taken the left-right spectrum very seriously. It forces a bunch of contradictory ideologies onto the same axis together and re-enforces tribalism.
@raydavison4288
@raydavison4288 11 місяців тому
People want simple answers to complicated situations.
@Harry_Tick
@Harry_Tick 5 місяців тому
Stupid is what stupid does.
@GodsOwnPrototype
@GodsOwnPrototype Рік тому
@TIKhistory Perhaps something got cut in the edit but at 32:59 you state that Mosley sent his unemployment proposals To Keynes, yet at 33:34 you state Mosley got his ideas From Keynes (only reference on screen is that of the AJP Taylor book you were critiquing with none for your comment); you also state at 35:42 that Keynes had no influence on the Labour Party at the time - what am I missing here? p.s. Thank you for the video.
@abdabtele
@abdabtele 15 днів тому
In the time of disinformation, this is a boon for humanity. Thank you. 🙏
@exharkhun5605
@exharkhun5605 Рік тому
Why did Dickens not compare the plight of the poor to their plight a hundred years earlier? Because that doesn't make sense. He was comparing the plight of the poor to the plight of the rich capitalists living in the same day and age. This is why I started to distrust Libertarianism, the arguments seem to make sense on a small scale, but fall apart as soon as you take a moment to think about the bigger picture. Just like some other ideologies I could, but will not, add. 😀
@idontapproveofyourlifestyle
@idontapproveofyourlifestyle 5 місяців тому
I hope to see a world where disclaimers like the one in the beginning are not needed, but sadly people have too many feelings and not enough common sense today.
@donaldsmith6814
@donaldsmith6814 11 місяців тому
Well done!
@liberteidentitemodernite
@liberteidentitemodernite Рік тому
4:38 You'd have a better grasp of Mosley's political evolution if you actually used the Left/Right spectrum. He first went to the Tories, then abandoned them because they were too "right-wing" (i.e. he wanted more radical change). Then he went to the Libs, same deal. And then the Labour Party, same deal. That's when he decided to create his own movement. You can definitely make the argument Mosley and fascism in general were left-wing. 8:36 It makes no sense to pretend the Conservatives aren't more (classically) liberal than the Labour Party. You claim Thatcher wasn't pro-freedom because she raised this or that tax, but you forget to mention the marginal income tax rate was cut in half under Thatcher, which is very significant. Also, we can't look at things in a vacuum. We live in the real world. While Thatcher was not 100% liberal (it's basically impossible), she was a lot more liberal than leader of the opposition Michael Foote (e.g.), who was her main opponent in the early 80s and was a full-blown marxist.
@Dmac6969
@Dmac6969 Рік тому
I've been religiously listening to your channel purely to learn about political ideology and its history
@Mitzoplick
@Mitzoplick Рік тому
The anti-free marketers from my experience pay less attention to actual poverty and living conditions than they do relative poverty. The poor may have gone from starving in the streets to being fat and clothed in the streets, but look at how wealthy these other people have also become. As many have said, it is not that they love the poor, they just hate the rich. Cain and Abel.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому
They envy the rich.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat Рік тому
*Abel
@Mitzoplick
@Mitzoplick Рік тому
@@SonofTiamat Thanks!
@abigailjack9570
@abigailjack9570 Рік тому
There are those but others desire economic interference to stop certain goods from being bought and sold. I can think of one specific industry in the market which I would gladly see buried, broken up and actively destroyed (which would be a continual battle as it would never entirely go away). Having said that this comment has little to do with the subject matter of Mosley I suppose.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Abigail Jack basically an ancap bitching about how the market can never do any wrong
@Miclantechupi
@Miclantechupi 11 місяців тому
Excellent content. I, perhaps unsurprisingly, had no idea about this. Much food for thought.
@sodacakeblues
@sodacakeblues 7 місяців тому
Re: the start of this video on your commentary about the flow of labour from the countryside to the cities with the growth of industrialisation, there is one major omission in your analysis: the enclosures. Several million people sustained their livelihoods (admittedly in relative poverty) farming strips of land in "open-field systems" whilst having access to commons such a fields where livestock they owned could graze or woodland where pigs could be put out to pannage. Whilst industrialisation, urban population growth and economic growth increased trends in larger farming systems (farms) to generate higher food production, open-field/common-field land-use patterns remained more conducive to the production of market-garden produce for longer around the major English towns such as Leicester, Nottingham & Liverpool. Between 1760 & 1870 about 7 million acres (about 1/6th of England) were changed from common-land to enclosed land by some 4,000 acts of enclosure - mainly for sheep grazing. A suite of business innovations (double-entry accounting, the joint-stock company, etc.) combined with this systematic policy of kicking people off commonly managed lands so that a system of “rent seeking” could be built up for wealthy people to extract money from the working poor.
@MrBropocalypse
@MrBropocalypse 5 місяців тому
Shhhh, he doesn't like to acknowledge that the free market jsut extracts wealth from the working poor.
@finnogorman5683
@finnogorman5683 Рік тому
Hello, Would you ever do a video on Enoch Powell?
@TheBrunohusker
@TheBrunohusker Рік тому
So as an American hearing this, I wonder if many Brits who aren’t that informed ( but think they are) think conservatives are low tax because in America, they generally are low tax. Granted it depends on the conservative and some want to be more like their British counterparts.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Jeremy Adrian he's a basic bitch liberal malding that everyone of his types victories for the last 70 years and not working out wasn't be those policies were shit but because it was actually those evil scheming aristocratic federalist fascists ruining his perfect globalization state
@PointNemo9
@PointNemo9 11 місяців тому
Firstly, why would Brits base their definition of conservatism according to policies in another country? Secondly, are conservatives in the US really that low tax? Or is it effectively the same game as being played in the UK? Who was the last Republican to substantially lower taxes?
@kered13
@kered13 10 місяців тому
@@PointNemo9 Bush and Trump both had rather substantial tax cuts without significantly raising taxes in any other area (though Trump did close a bunch of tax loopholes). In the US the equivalent "game" is that Republicans claim to be in favor of a government with a smaller and balanced budget. But in practice tax cuts are never balanced with corresponding spending cuts, and Republicans have usually spent just as much as Democrats, just differently.
@MrBropocalypse
@MrBropocalypse 5 місяців тому
If you don't take into account state governments, you're lying by ommission. Conservatives love taxes--sales taxes, which generally hurt the poor. In many rural US states the sales tax can be as high as 10%.
@Alte.Kameraden
@Alte.Kameraden Місяць тому
First half of this video is literally one of the greatest works by TIK in his career in my opinion. 😂
@russelltimmerman3771
@russelltimmerman3771 Рік тому
16:13 the liberals considered themselves the party of reason, they love a good sounding argument. The conservatives would have kicked the Hegelians out on their ears.
@gerardvandermeulen62
@gerardvandermeulen62 Рік тому
"Hours not as long as long as on the farms..." 15, 16 hours a day were not uncommon in early industry and workers came home to fall asleep, face down, in their bowl of "food". So no picnic, compared to farming. But they had work all year round, seven days a week. Hurray.
@jerm70
@jerm70 Рік тому
How long you worked on the farm depends on how fortunate you were and how skilled you were. Industry and Farming very much had its pros and cons.
@David-fm6go
@David-fm6go Рік тому
42:57 Labor/Socialists: "It's not our fault we suck, it's the system that made us fail"
@Rbloxx81
@Rbloxx81 Рік тому
Socialists acting within the government's methods of the election process (Democracy) is the reason why they fail to garner power in the modern day.
@notbotheredable
@notbotheredable Рік тому
Farmers left their land for the cities due to the enclosures acts. They left because their land was taken by parliamentary act. Not willingly. The same things occurred in Scotland during the clearances. The poverty thus generated was crucial in driving the early industrial revolution. Do not confuse the massive improvement in living standards brought about by capitalism with the appalling poverty and suffering that attended its birth.
@philipsmeeton
@philipsmeeton Рік тому
One problem is that Britain is not a true democracy with proportional representation. The common citizen is not represented or has any voice in Parliament. We vote in representatives that only persue their own selfish aims.
@keithstevens5614
@keithstevens5614 Рік тому
Took them 3 years and 2 PMs to execute the Brexit voted on in a direct democratic process, raging and fuming all the while, threatening and throwing around their vendettas along the way. They also decided that Brexit was the last straw, regretted they allowed the people taste too much democracy here, and vowed never to repeat the same mistake again. From now on only dictatorship and obedience. Referendum/direct democracy is now called populism which can then be interpreted in some twisted way as fascism, while top-down dictat is democracy.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Рік тому
Well the UK tried a democratic vote with brexit and see how that turned out.
@bulbainquisition9590
@bulbainquisition9590 Рік тому
Power only exists to justify its power, and power is centralized. Ever since the ending of absolute monarchies in the early modern era, power has just been slowly centralizing in our "Democratic" Elites. All politics makes sense if you look at it in that regard.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 Рік тому
And absolute monarchies themselves were centralised compared to feudal times. This is one of the factors why beofe emdoern medicine medieval times actually had the greatest living standards for the lower classes.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@Matthius Köenig are you German or Austrian?
@stillbrian9448
@stillbrian9448 Рік тому
Weird how everytime an analysis of a fascist or a nazi is made, the person explaining often has to start the video with "I'm not a nazi or a fascist or a racist or anything like that". I see it commonly when touching the fascist or radical right wing ideology. The same reassurances never appear on socialist or communist analysis videos
@johnmanole4779
@johnmanole4779 Рік тому
Because of the tankies I guess and other stupid people who'd think if you explain the ideas of a group or person that means you are one of them
@baselinefreedom5616
@baselinefreedom5616 8 днів тому
Lark Rise to Candleford, the original novel, not the typical divisive series, is an interesting and accurate account of how farm workers lived in the 1870s. We must remember that improvements in seed drills, harvesters and the Norfolk Crop Rotation System meant a lot of farm workers were not needed. In economic terms this would have been a boom as those workers headed to towns and cities to work in manufacturing that created abundance, especially in cotton products that everyone benefited from, not just the landed nobility. One of the reasons Africa and Central America is poor is due to tariffs preventing them exporting remanufactured added value products such as coffee and sugar to protect US, UK and EU farmers. I worked on farms during Christmas Holidays and it was freezing. I was only too glad to work indoors, as were many factory workers. My Gt Grandmother said the work was light but busy and you got paid what you made and she never had a bad word about it apart from some were lazy. Whilst farmwork could be long hours, workers found the easiest ways to do tasks and apart from initial tilling or ploughing, done by heavy horses, then seeding, there was not much to do until harvest when all hands were needed, hence the summer holidays. Winter was tending livestock and consuming stored food. Read Flora's Non PC account of her life in the Oxfordshire countryside free here. gutenberg.ca/ebooks/thompsonf-larktrilogy/thompsonf-larktrilogy-00-h.html
@Janeka-xj2bv
@Janeka-xj2bv Рік тому
Mosley was an aristocrat, but not LORD Mosley. He was Sir Oswald Mosley, Bt. A minor inaccuracy. Keep up the good work. Thanks. From Reggio di Calabria, Italy.
@Mitch93
@Mitch93 Рік тому
I do need to point out that this average life expectancy of 35 is actually Bogus, TIK.
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Рік тому
If you count kids who did not make to their 5th birthday the stats are abysmally low. (if one person dies at age of one and another dies at 69, then life average life expectancy is 35). If you count life expectancy at age of 5, stats don't look bad.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 Рік тому
@MITCH yeah but that's the whole video
@varalderfreyr8438
@varalderfreyr8438 2 місяці тому
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