Is MASTURBATION bad? Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson w/ Bret Weinstein

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Is MASTURBATION bad? Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson
#jordanpeterson #samharris #god #jesus #bible #atheism #masturbation #sex #pornography #bretweinstein
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Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 1
Moderated by Bret Weinstein
06/23/2018
This is the first time Sam & Jordan appeared live together on stage. This event took place at the Orpheum Theatre in Vancouver BC Canada on June 23rd 2018 in front of a sold out audience of 3000 people. The event was produced by Pangburn Philosophy.

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@Pangburn
@Pangburn Місяць тому
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@0xiah
@0xiah Місяць тому
As a society, we need to mass debate on this topic.
@RinZ3993
@RinZ3993 Місяць тому
That comment is just master bait
@jamescampbell2521
@jamescampbell2521 Місяць тому
😂
@theozarktrekker
@theozarktrekker Місяць тому
Debates that end on a climax are my favorite debates.
@TrevorParsnips
@TrevorParsnips Місяць тому
I feel exactly the same about when I think of the intimate moments I've had with my lovely wife Angela, we too love debating and finishing on a climax is ideal.
@MarcusN-kp1jn
@MarcusN-kp1jn 28 днів тому
Just like masturbation.
@lotsofstuff9645
@lotsofstuff9645 Місяць тому
The more I hear debates about religion the more it seems that large groups of religious people don’t actually believe in any of the details of the religion but just think that it has some utility so is necessary. If that were the case, I wish people would just admit that upfront because that is a completely different debate. Lying to manipulate people is never a good idea.
@cosmicprison9819
@cosmicprison9819 Місяць тому
Dennis Prager is pretty upfront about this. He said on Tim Pool’s Podcast that he only tries to convince people of the need for a god - not of god’s existence itself. In other words, he relies on people’s fear to do the dirty work for him. Ultimately, they’re all just parroting Nietzsche’s ideas here - a man who may have been correct in his analysis of the is, but dead wrong in pretty much all of his proposed solutions (oughts). I’ve come to not only call Nietzsche the proto-fascist (a term I’ve heard another debater use recently, too, independently from myself), but also as the Karl Marx of the far-right. And if you think that should be Ayn Rand, I doubt there would have been an Ayn Rand without a Nietzsche.
@michaelkulman7095
@michaelkulman7095 Місяць тому
Two master debaters really go at it in the climax of the debate. This was the seminal moment. It did rub some people the wrong way though.
@waynerobertson511
@waynerobertson511 Місяць тому
Ultimately, I think they pulled it off though.
@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime
@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime Місяць тому
😅😅😅😅
@cosmicprison9819
@cosmicprison9819 Місяць тому
To be fair, a lot of this is intellectual m*sturbation.
@BrickBreaker21
@BrickBreaker21 Місяць тому
Very simulating, hard debate. JP totally boned it at the end.
@jonasdamion1627
@jonasdamion1627 Місяць тому
if sex ed is barely effective why are the highest teen pregnancy rates solely in states with abstinence only education?
@daves2955
@daves2955 Місяць тому
No. Masturbation is the same as any other bodily exercise.
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle Місяць тому
Amen
@robertl.6919
@robertl.6919 Місяць тому
@@ChillAssTurtle” Sexual relief is a natural function of the human condition. Forbid masturbation so men and women will be seeking for a sexual mate, marry younger and procreation will be ensured”. So what about Catholic priests and nuns ? That’s why the Catholic Church dogma has been the main cause for thousands and thousands of child abuse throughout the centuries. I am 63 yo and was raised in a Catholic environment, home and school… I know about these stories. I know about the few among hundreds who were convicted for rape. That is a reality.
@jamesmcbride4806
@jamesmcbride4806 Місяць тому
I used to think this also. Unfortunately the truth is our bodies are flooded with hormones after orgasming that affect us literally more than we know. Oxytocin levels peak during masturbation. Oxytocin also makes you bond with someone. What happens if no one is there, or if you're staring at strangers having sex? Do we bond with ourselves making us more narcissistic, or do we bond with the people we're watching, making us less likely to look for an actual mate? I think these are important questions, but it definitely isn't the same a normal exercise lol.
@robertl.6919
@robertl.6919 Місяць тому
@@jamesmcbride4806 The real question is “ is masturbation a normal human behaviour ? “ Well it is defined as so in every scientific book, either in psychology or psychology. Animals masturbates. Is eating a natural behaviour ? 40 % of Americans are overweight and obese, many have diabetes and heart conditions as a consequence of eating too much. Is masturbation more of health concern than nutrition addiction ? If “ health “ has been a concern of the Church, it would shame overweight people for their bad behaviour.
@jamesmcbride4806
@jamesmcbride4806 Місяць тому
@@robertl.6919 I don't understand your reasoning. Anything can be normalized given arbitrary parameters. It used to be medical consensus to bottle feed your children before science understood the role of beneficial bacteria, now the medical consensus is to breast feed lol. Science is progressive, not definitive. Where does science explain what happens when oxytocin and prolactin surge post orgasm consequent to masturbation vs actual sex? That literature doesn't exist afaik. It's more of an open question at this point. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong here. At least anecdotally, I can tell you not masturbating for a few weeks or even months and only engaging in real sex has a drastic effect on my personality in the positive direction.
@Error_404_Account_Deleted
@Error_404_Account_Deleted Місяць тому
Jordan never should have traded benzos for god.
@shiftymenno
@shiftymenno Місяць тому
he made a lot more sense when he was hopped up on bennies.
@Carbonbank
@Carbonbank Місяць тому
What a crap comment dude
@brentwhite9712
@brentwhite9712 Місяць тому
Not sure about that, but he has gone from being so interesting and actually remarkably moderate. Remember him saying that the left and the right were both half right? Now it’s just easy, boring conservatism. It used to be much trickier and more of a tightrope, but it was more rooted in reality. Now it’s just beige.
@user-vj4ss1ur2r
@user-vj4ss1ur2r Місяць тому
You can't trade something that don't exist for something that does.
@jonasdamion1627
@jonasdamion1627 Місяць тому
you have no idea what youre talking about
@olemew
@olemew Місяць тому
Is MASTURBATION bad? Bret Weinstein vs Bret Weinstein w/ Bret Weinstein
@MisterG2323
@MisterG2323 Місяць тому
I'm thinking Peterson has never had a satisfying, healthy sex life.
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle Місяць тому
Hes a gigantic dweeb, of course he hasnt.
@hoWa3920
@hoWa3920 Місяць тому
I doubt he has a satisfying life at all.
@garrettpeters2547
@garrettpeters2547 Місяць тому
Jordan is unfuckable.
@johnnymathematics6216
@johnnymathematics6216 Місяць тому
Two intellectual giants knocking out THE biggest issues of the day.
@esotericoffering
@esotericoffering Місяць тому
Why does guilt and shame and mors importantly fear need to to be built into self discipline?
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin Місяць тому
Lack of better stories apparently. Which seems like a lack of creativity. Which also seems to support the idea that religion is entirely Man made.
@Bungaloo
@Bungaloo Місяць тому
I really do not know why people should spend so much time debating the existence of a god and if he cares what you get up to. Firstly there is no god to look over your shoulder and secondly you will have to depend on yourself to develop an acceptable code of conduct. You cannot have a happy life if you are not prepared to live honourable. If your conscience decrees that masterbation will make you feel better then it is nobody else’s concern.
@garrettpeters2547
@garrettpeters2547 Місяць тому
This first 2 minutes is Bret so obviously out of his league. It's no wonder Sam doesn't take Bret seriously.
@taboo_lullaby
@taboo_lullaby 29 днів тому
It's a simple human desire for release. No big deal
@BrickBreaker21
@BrickBreaker21 Місяць тому
Yeah, this is really the debate I to watch at 5 am. 3 middle aged men with PhDs talking about beating it like it's a philosophical discussion. 🤦‍♂️
@jraelien5798
@jraelien5798 Місяць тому
Nope! It's GREAT!
@Andymelvin006
@Andymelvin006 Місяць тому
God doesn’t care if you crank one out. He only cares what you think about when you do it. 😎
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin Місяць тому
Religious debates = public mass debation.
@RinZ3993
@RinZ3993 Місяць тому
All just wild speculation. It might as well be the case that the existence of porn and the practice of masturbation has declined rape and sexual violencr
@atmoo3447
@atmoo3447 Місяць тому
Pornography is the same as everything else, there's far right and far left. There is crude insensitive pornography and there is loving and sensual pornography and everything in between. And for adults who have lived a sheltered life pornography can be educational.
@MarcusN-kp1jn
@MarcusN-kp1jn 28 днів тому
Back when Bret wasn't deranged.
@GreedRuinsEverything
@GreedRuinsEverything Місяць тому
Why would 'a god' care if this god created you and controls your thoughts, instincts and therefore actions... is he not just watching the machine he programmed do exactly what he programmed it to do? God really doesn't have the ego these ego driven humans have...
@jasonthurston799
@jasonthurston799 Місяць тому
We made God in our image so he does have an ego!
@Fenkibbs
@Fenkibbs Місяць тому
God gave humans free will. God doesn't control your thoughts. You are free to think. Although humans have proclivities towards certain things, you're still free whether to give in to those urges or fight against them. And fight against them means acing the test given to us by God. This is a question that should be posed for atheists who believe every human behaviour boils down to a bunch of neurons interacting with each other. If one is already predisposed, then why bother making a change at all? Atheists believe in determinism not theists.
@EyeonthePrize247
@EyeonthePrize247 Місяць тому
@@Fenkibbs Is god omniscient?
@jasonthurston799
@jasonthurston799 Місяць тому
@@Fenkibbs There is no free will! ukposts.info/have/v-deo/kpeneKh9rq-IlZ8.html If God knows all, why have us act out this life on earth. Why not just ship some to heaven and the rest to hell.
@stevencollins8348
@stevencollins8348 Місяць тому
Why ask a question if your just going to do all the talking?
@tir1289
@tir1289 Місяць тому
Agree, Bret was cutting Sam off a lot
@lanceresultay014
@lanceresultay014 Місяць тому
I really thought they gonna have at deBATE-off.
@tir1289
@tir1289 Місяць тому
mas-debate
@hoWa3920
@hoWa3920 Місяць тому
If masturbation is possible it has to be done.
@Fltnrs
@Fltnrs Місяць тому
I respected Bret as an intellectual until he went off the rails with covid.
@DeaconShadow
@DeaconShadow Місяць тому
Wasn’t that the other Weinstein.
@EggPuff
@EggPuff Місяць тому
the floor is yours! L O L
@ahmadjamalmughal47
@ahmadjamalmughal47 Місяць тому
this is just... SUBSCRIBE.
@juanzavala9023
@juanzavala9023 Місяць тому
FIRST
@mazklassa9338
@mazklassa9338 Місяць тому
No one cares
@Stephen-zq2wf
@Stephen-zq2wf Місяць тому
Given that You are In a Relationship ... Masturbation is Adultery My Hunch is that the "Thoughts" during Masturbation determine this
@ulfingvar1
@ulfingvar1 Місяць тому
Fucking bullshit. What if you fantasize about your partner? Still adultery?
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle Місяць тому
Eating too many cheeseburgers can be bad too.
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