My dog is all for private ownership when I try to take a toy away from him but he suddenly believes in communism when it comes time for me to eat my dinner

Once again, thanks for mentioning Venezuela and talking about the reality of what life is there. I am Venezuelan, I would love to help translating your messages to Spanish because I believe that all of Latin America and Spain could benefit from messages like this; clear, concise and without unnecessary ornaments. It's sad and embarrassing how there's no information about what is going on in my country, my fellow venezuelan have walked (literally walked) their way through the whole continent from Venezuela to Chile and to the USA; many of them dying either in the cold mountains or the Darien jungle, there's no mention of that anywhere to be found. There's no mention of dog meat being sold on the streets or about how a cubanized and broken health system has hurt so many. My own mother died on February last year in a shack called "integral assistant center" with no equipment, qualified personnel or the most basic supplies; she had a heart attack after weeks of suffering what every test but a "PCR" showed was COVID. Before that she was surviving on a $6 a month pension after working all her life... There's millions there still living like that. Still, there's many people saying "but that's not real socialism"; thanks Dr Peterson for saying without a doubt that it is, without a doubt, socialism in all it's horror.

While attending college at age 18 (36 years ago) I was elected the entertainment officer at the student union. I then attended the Nation Union of Students conference here in the UK. Most of the student activists seemed to support Socialism or Communist ideologies (maybe it was cool). What I intuitively concluded was that those who supported these ideologies all seemed to possess a personal grievance against something (a chip on thier shoulder) rather than a true desire to help improve the wellbeing of the working class. In Bertrand Russell's interview when he is questioned on his thoughts of Lenin he said he did not think of him well because Lenin seemed to take great delight when the land owning farmers were hanged by their necks from the trees by the revolting peasants. It seem to me that Lenin had a "Chip on his shoulder" probably against those who had higher positions in society for whatever reason. The rest is history.

I live in Denmark and back in the 70s/80s, my father was a communist. Then in 1983 we was on a trip to Berlin, having to travel through east Germany in order get there. The experience was enough for my father goo full right wing. The corruption, poor state of everything and police going through everything. Even my toy cars was taken apart. Having studied history a lot, I find it amusing every time left wing person calls the right nazis, but in reality they are the nazis. What the left generally don’t know is that the nazi and communism both comes left wing socialism. Both are just as bad. Socialism is properly the ideology that has killed the most in all of history.

Ludwig von Mises noted that National Socialism (fascism) and Communism are two sides of the same coin of interventionism. Under fascism, government and business collude to impose political policy via business. Under communism, government contols who runs the business and holds ownership, and the business is the direct instrument of the state. The outcomes are nearly the same- destruction of wealth and lives.

It always amazes me how people don’t look at the hammer and sickle like they do the swastika. Both evil.

At my school in Germany I discuss the "8 measures of Communism" with pupils in 9th grade. As far as I know I am the only history teacher at my school who does that for my school is VERY left leaning and the history curriculum has been changed recently for the little ones in a way that discusses history (Egypt, ancient Greece and Rome) PURELY through the lense of powerstructures. So when I discuss the communist manifesto the pupils are always disgusted and say things like "I never knew that they said that the party is everything. I always thought the nazis were the only ones to say that." or "I didn't know that they wanted to abolish the family". It's WRITTEN in the communist manifesto. We just have to read it to know where it is heading...

There was a popular joke in East Germany: "Could the USA become communist?" "In theory, but East Germany can only feed one superpower."

Relationships can turn communist real quick. That moment when your girlfriend starts referring to everything she wants as things "we" want, while everything you want remains what "you" want.

Im Venezuelan and I can confirm the thing about the population losing weight, is worse in some cases, I migrated to Panama 6 year ago because my mother was starving due to the goverment expropiating the food factories all across the nation, I shit you not when I tell you my mom lost 25 pounds (12 kilos) in just 2 months.

When I hear someone say, "real communism hasn't been tried," my brain translates it as "I can control the One Ring." I always love hearing Dr. Peterson wax poetic on totalitarian regimes, because it really forces you to consider your role in things.

40 years ago, when schools taught American and World History, the emphasis was placed on Hitler's dictatorship and there was little focus on Stalin even though more people were murdered under Lenin/Stalin philosophy.

When I first heard the analogy, I thought it was out in left field, but the more I think about it, viewing any form of socialism as a religious cult seems completely appropriate. Both revolve entirely around the faith of the followers, and no amount of failed attempts or other evidence will serve to sway them. All non-believers must be at a minumum marginalized, but more often imprisoned or eliminated so as not to confuse the loyal with 'disinformation' or 'misinformation' (and only Big Brother himself can determine what constitutes either of those concepts).

"We should also make starvation illegal, this way we solve the problem!" "Genius!" - Some venezuelan politicians, probably

I think I can give a simpler answer to the question. The two murderous regimes (Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia) had one decisive thing in common: They were totalitarian. Totalitarian means essentially that individual liberty has been taken away from the citizen and he has to abide by the extreme rules of an ideology implemented. At that point, it doesn't really matter anymore what exactly that ideology is, because the citizens have become its slaves. This is the true (d)evil. A corollary is that we should always strive to support political movements that try to maximize individual freedoms without sliding into anarchy.

People forget that Nazis and communists were on the same side until Hitler decided that Stalin was a threat.

1980 - Two Soviets walking down an avenue in Moscow: "Is this it? Have we really achieved full communism?" "Oh, no, it's going to get a whole lot worse."

This is what should be taught at home and school.

"Do you know that Venezuela, when recently faced with state-induced hunger, made it illegal for physicians to list starvation as a cause of death?" WOW

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My four grandparents all fled the Soviet Union shortly after the revolution. I completely agree with you that communism always ends the same way -- in brutality. In my opinion, the political system is not best thought of as a spectrum from left to right. Rather, it is better thought of as a circle. Once you get to the extreme left of communism or the extreme right of autocratic nationalism, they are both directly adjacent to each other. There is effectively no difference between a communist regime and an autocratic nationalist regime. The dogma that they use as a fig leaf to justify their brutality might be different, but the populace sent off to a gulag won't experience a difference if the guards are wearing a hammer and cycle versus a swastika.

we treat the two differently because one was our ally in WW2 and one was our enemy. We overlooked the crimes and sins of our allies out of practical necessity.

I love when people just give him a chance to think without saying anything. He is really smart and cares for our country more than most Americans

As a person who live's in Saudi Arabia, i would say this was very educational. Thank you Mr Peterson keep talking about communism and fascism, because i want to know more about it. Although i know it but i want to hear it from your perspective point of view. 💖

Wow, now i finally understand why the right and left are placed as opposing ideas. long time it has been uncomparable for me ideologywise. thanks for clarifying in a side sentence!

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I believe that part of the reason Communism isn't viewed as badly as Naziism is that while people are told "100 million people died as a result of Communist policies", that's just a number to people. For the Nazis on the other hand, everyone has seen pictures of the concentration camps, the rounding up of peoples for the trains to go to the gas chambers. People could visualize and it was more viseral than just a statistic.

That thing about it being illegal to name starvation as the cause of death in Venezuela reminds me of the reverse, naming every death that you can get away with as a death caused by "the varus" a little while ago. It's the same bull pie

Often when people blame the hierarchy for the poor conditions of someone else, what they actually want is a new hierarchy where the poor are at the top and that this will fix things. No all you have done is replace the top of the hierarchy from a small person to large group of people, aka the tyranny of the majority. The hierarchy is still in place, but for some reason the poor will make better decisions. Which ignores what the hierarchy was based on in the first place - competence. People who understood things more clearly will rise, and those people are far better at being in power, because they understand more things more clearly. Of course we should have empathy for the poor and try to help them, which the capitalist countries are very good at, not perfect but very good. Not so much the non capitalist countries, if they do have welfare its nothing compared to the capitalist countries welfare that can house and feed and keep someone in relative comfort. In the non capitalist countries welfare is next to nothing, maybe its around a 2 slices of bread a day per person. You cant compare them.

My great uncle was both, first nzi, then communist. Both was equally equally hard to handle for him. No decider or soldier, he was a shoemaker in both systems.

“ An ignorance of history so appalling that any political statement given on their behalf should be followed by paroxysms of embarrassment “ - well said by the good doctor

I think it is due to the large difference between the sheer number of movies that have been made about the atrocities committed by the Nazis vs the ones committed by the communists.

That is very true - the reason people fail to find comparison between nazis and soviets is because nazi ideology is CLEAR whereas communism isn't. So it is clear who nazis going to kill and why. soviet ideology at first it may seem harmless, but precisely because it isn't clear where the lines are, in reality it means that everyone who in some degree is slightly above average is potential threat and therefore could become victim. Just think about it - statistically 50% will always be above average is some way and as soon as they dealt with, the person who was just below average now takes their place. So automatically the list of targets for repression in soviet rule is unlimited and they went after people who are genuinely good for society, anyone educated, anyone successful, any business or farm owner were at risk and many got killed... reason? Simple - as long as somebody could be jealous of you achievements you going to gulag or worse. Have nicer shoes - gulag, more beautiful wife - gulag, cleaner house - gulag, your lawn is greener - not allowed, gulag. And to be average is very low bar, because what people don't realise is that somebody always going to be at the bottom, junk of the society going to be jealous of even basic things, even worse - it was enough just being accused to get in trouble, it is not like there were genuine investigation or fact finding. No it was enough that your alcoholic neighbour has made a statement that in private you oppose stalin and that is all it takes to get in trouble. Maybe not gulag right away, but be sure if there is a purge or if they looking to fill quotas for gulag then you will be the one on the list to visit. So this caused race to the bottom where the only way to be safe from gulag is not to stick out as much as possible, have nothing, owning nothing and have no goals in life... which is very destructive for any society. And by the way we all forget mao, I am partially guilty of this was well... most people know how horrible hitler was, many (not enough) now accept that stalin was horrible, still very few realise that he was more horrible than hitler (morally comparable, but statistically much worse)... yet almost no one even think about mao, despite both hitler and stalin looking like armatures when it comes to killing. And we have china - country where mao is still actively glorified, ruzzia where soviet victory flags still fly high and we do business with them, how is that even possible?! This is because people do not see stalin and mao in same light, therefore they don't find it disgusting to have any relation with these countries. And I get it after 1990 soviet union collapsed, china got more open and I guess it was "experiment", showing people that free market and democracy is at least alternative and trying to convince them this is better than authoritarian regimes by allowing them to integrate into western society. But this project has well and truly failed. As soon as putka started glorifying ruzzian empire and soviet union, as soon as whinie pooh started promoting communism again they should have been barred from any relation with west. Those ideologies and regimes should not be acceptable, same as we do no accept nazis, or same if the Germany would start saying now that they going to get rid of the jews... I think nobody would accept keeping relations with the, because we know where it leads, yet we quite happy to work together with communists despite them being much worse.

My biggest problem with the idea of the utopia/communist regime is expecting everyone to be the same, one of the biggest parts of Communist doctrine is equality of outcome, aka equity. To expect this is impossible, asking a tall person who may require more food and water, to eat and drink less is evil, to expect everyone to have the same interests is impossible, for everyone to be paid the same leads to apathy at the job. Expecting equality of outcome is one of the most evil things you can ask for, because at the core of Equality of Outcome, I recall a particular character from the video game Bioshock 2. Her name was Sophia Lamb, she is the primary antagonist of the video game, a psychologist hired by Andrew Ryan (Bioshock 1's initial antagonist) to help the people of the underwater city of Rapture cope with not being able to see the sun. Overtime, she became a communist (listen to her speeches) and became a cult of personality, with her ultimate goal of creating the world's first Utopian, by using her daughter as the experiment. She wanted her daughter to not be able to think for herself, at all, not even to breath, because to think, means you're thinking, for yourself. She wanted to abolish the "Self". Now think about Equity, and Communism, the idea of having to share everything equally, means you have to give up any kind of selfish thought. Need more water? Sorry, you're only allowed a certain amount per day! Gotta share that water, can't be "SELFISH!". Don't feel like eating that plate of food? Sorry! You can't share that to someone you love! You must eat it! because if you give your food to someone else than that means THEY were selfish! Notice how stupid that sounds? Asking people, to give up any kind of selfish thoughts, is impossible. Nature at its very core, is selfish. What do I mean by that? I don't mean selfish in the negative connotation. Normally we think of the definition of selfish as this, (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. However, that's not the only definition. Selfishness can simply mean, thinking for one's self, needing to breath, needing to drink, needing to eat, needing to survive. Look at every animal on earth, predator and herbivore alike, they all have to do that, eat, breath, drink, survive. They don't care who's bigger, smaller, faster, or slower, all they care about is survival. There is no equality in the animal kingdom, some animals starve to death because they were unlucky at finding food, some animals are smart enough to find a plentiful source for life, some animals adapted to eat dead animals (Vultures), while some animals are omnivores. They all think for themselves in different ways. So to ask Humanity, to stop thinking for themselves, goes against nature, it goes against what makes us human, it's pure and simply, EVIL! That, is at the core of Communism, to abolish the self, and the only way to do that? Is to die. This is why so many communist regimes end up mass murdering hundreds of millions of people, because those people resisted, they thought for themselves, they thought differently, regardless of race, sex, or orientation. Nazi's hated the jews, Communism hated anybody that was different. Anyone who thought for THEMSELVES! And resisted sharing anything they have for the common good, for the utopia, for the mother land. And this is why Capitalism, for all its faults, made America so great. It allowed people to chase their passions, and via supply/demand, could make a living from it. It allowed people to capitalize on selfish desires without being judged. It allowed people to advance technology to anyone willing to invest! It allowed people not to fear sharing food to everyone around them, especially to those who didn't work for it, out of guilt or force. It allowed people to think for themselves for what's best for their own persons. Ironically, it allowed people to share, voluntarily, out of their own desire to help rise people up to their potential. Capitalism works with nature.

A socialist would say "We'll MAKE the world a better place. We'll MAKE things fair, by force if necessary (and preferably)." A libertarian would day "I'll LET the world be a better place, and I'll help where I can."

At home, I am a communist dictator. I get to be the communist dictator because as a functioning capitalist, I own that domain, and from each according to his ability means I contribute more than others. But I don't want my children to remain dependent, so I train their abilities and demand contribution, towards the ends of forming them into independently functioning capitalists ready to employ their abilities. It's important to eventually be oppressive enough that they want to move out of communism and grow to reach their own capitalist independence.

Anyone wanting to be involved in rulership over another is disgusting.

@Dr.Peterson good day Mr. Peterson , I have many friends and acquaintances who really want to listen to your lectures, but many people are not as familiar with the English language as others. Is there an option to also include German subtitles?

Did Mr Peterson or anyone else do a detailed comparison of national socialism vs international socialism? Is there a video, article or a book I can read on it?

A Polish mathematics professor recalls (he was on USSR territory during the German and Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939) a conversation with a Red Army officer who was a scientist in civilian life. This Russian said: "I'm intrigued by a certain fact. I was liberating Western Ukraine and Western Belarus. Then the Baltic countries and Bessarabia. I warred in many countries during the National War. Wherever we entered, bread could be bought as much as anyone wanted. But after a few weeks it... disappeared. I don't understand this! I studied political economy, I know dialectical and historical materialism quite well, and I can't understand this fact! Did this Russian Ivan eat so much bread?". Well...

great clip ill share this a bunch thank you

Such a great analysis. The world really was in desperate need for someone wich such rich documentation on social behaviour throught the history.

4:36 they mean the fairy tale version as defined (more like advertised) in books, "a class-less society" but everyone who lived under it knows that this was never applicable in real life, Solzhenitsyn and others wrote how it real was to live under it!

It’s not that complicated. The National Socialists exterminated based on ethnicity, Communists exterminate based on class.

I have a nice Jordan Peterson tea cozy. It's my favorite possession.

Bit late to the party but I would say, both ideologues seek a version of Utopia but the pathway for both led instead to hell, which means their people pay the ultimate price. In that sense both systems have commonality.

I am from Poland, my family lived between nazzi GERMANY, and communists Russia. They are the same.

My parents have actually lived in Ukraine (I was born in 2001, my mom was born in 1973, my dad in 1968, we migrated to Germany in 2008), and they told me in great detail about their childhood, and that most things were better back during the Soviet era (everyone had a house, everyone had a job, there was no poverty, everything was affordable, just a much simpler time), and they scoff at people like Jordan Peterson who tries to present the Soviet Union as an evil dystopian nightmare where everyone was oppressed. And you know, I'd rather trust my parents who actually lived during that time than some random guy on the internet.

Hey. Why put the flag of the federal republic of germany in the thumbnail?

As a german it really hurts me to see my Homecountry slowly become a shithole.... again

These two branches of the tree of syndicalism had one thing that separated them: The Nazis focused their genocide towards one specfic enemy: The Jews The Communists FOCUS their genocide towards one specific enemy: Humanity itself.

Nah I'm an 80s baby. They taught us how to hide under our desk because of the hammer and sickle. They are both entirely and equally awful, and need to go away asap.

If you force someone to give up their land in the name of the common good, how is that different from forcing someone to give up their land for the nation?

They never work because humans are human, the leaders somehow have to lack any greed and ambition, but also be highly proficent at their jobs with a sense of responsibility(most of which is good in any political system). Similarly, the people have to be content, hard working and lack ambition. Also you need to have no criminals.

watching this broadcast make one feel it was in the last century. The people actually listened and respected each others views, something we need to get back to

Problem with real communism -argument is that even non-perfect communism should bring somewhat positive outcome. It doesn't... So, even if there is theoretical possibility of good communistic society, it goes so easily wrong that therefore it shouldn't be considered because it's too risky. Capitalism is way less risky and somewhat works even with bad leaders..

What is the point of debating whether cancer is worse than a car crash. They are both terrible.

The word salad the host used detracted from this at points but Jordan Peterson was on form nonetheless.

The Taxation Center is in Sudbury, because of Ed Broadbent NDP in 80's. Corner of Lasalle & Notre Dame .

What is the word he used at 4:52? Orid? I just need spelling. Thanks

Stalin's atrocities were not captured on film. Hitlers were. BIG difference for we humans as visual creatures.

Communism is a good idea. See how well things are going in Russia. Oh. Not that communism. Communism is a good idea. See how well things are going in China. Oh. Not that communism. Communism is a good idea. See how well things are going in Venezuela. Oh. Not that communism. No they are all the same.

One guy filmed it all. The other guy told everybody to shut up. Looking back there is a lot more easily accessible evidence for the first guy.

Definitely need the data to back up the causality in the relationship being stated. Correlation is not causation

Thats why I am going to say from now on ... "that is not proper capitalism"

It's spelled "policies". Love you JP

I'm reminded of that movies War Games... Where the computer worked out that however you start the game, it always ends up the same.

I spoke to a mum from Slovakia recently who said they have "name days" because if you wanted to give your child a particular name, you had to wait until the day those names were allowed. I asked what would happen if you named your child a different name anyway. She said "You would be imprisoned. It used to be a communist country."

I appreciate interviewers that don’t nod their head whenever the interviewee looks at them. It is a sign of intelligence. So many media personalities are prone to nodding .

There are a few possibilities: NAZI symbols were seen only for a few years, and during this time they were painted on the sides of military vehicles that were killing friends and family and destroying local towns and cities. Communist symbols lasted 70+ years, and for most of that time they were not painted on the sides of military vehicles that were killing friends and family, some of the time they were fighting on our side, a lot of the time they were not actively/directly threatening. The especially unpleasant aspects of NAZIsm were unveiled by friendly soldiers liberating camps and documenting what they saw in photos and film. Communist atrocities were typically not unveiled by Allied soldiers with cameras. NAZIsm was closer to Europe and occurred in places that were essentially 'here'. Communism happened more distantly, Russians were always on the edge anyway, the Chinese are positively different. On an individual level, it may also be that while both ideologies had 'the undesirables' that they would happily kill/dispose of (non-Aryans or those who were at all wealthy) a lot of modern people might think they'd be more likely to be judged undesirable under NAZIsm than Communism (though they are unlikely correct about this, given the demonstrated more murderous character of Communism).

0:30 I can't speak for eveyone, but coming from Western-Europe, I think it's because we were more aversely affected by the Nazi's, and as a country had "first hand" experience. I think also, als a result, history classes, documentaries, tv-weeks (around special dates like 4 & 5 may, 6 June, 17 september) focused much much more on these events than on what happened on the eastern side of europe. It wasn't completely ignored, but it was as prominently highlighted with the same attention to details. Same as Mao reign in China. As an example, we, the dutch, now virtually nothoing about WW1, compared to the Belgians, the British and the French (and the Germans). Why? Because it wasn't a major event to us. (We were neutral; we didn't fight, it didn't affect us as it did the aforementioned countries,

When (some) people think of real communism, they usually think of something that would work for a small socialist commune, but on a larger scale or like the grade averaging experiment in school, when students would get the class average score based on the test or assignment. But real communism does not promise happiness.

There are many countries using a hybrid, and they are all more successful than any country bound to just one ideology. FDR was the first, but he wasn't the last, and many have gone further. From Australia to Norway, happier societies, less wealth inequality, and not talked about enough. Jordan refused to debate the notorious economics professor, and socialist Richard Wolff after openly challenging any socialist to debate him. It was scheduled, but Jordan cancelled because he said his fees went up and the university didn't want to pay his rate...

So on point!

The problem is not about communism or social-nationalism per se. In democratic societies any regime is possible if agreed upon by the society. The problem is about the rule by power, problem is dictatorship and strict enforcment od ideology upon the population, which leads to dissent and deaths. Mind you, that this kind of modus operandi also exists (in milder form) in so called democracies today. Russia for example. Again, deaths come from the enforcment of a certain ideology upon somebody who rejects it or is a threat to it. This ideology can in reality be anything.

Framcois DE Callieres 1716 Quote " An ancient philosopher once said that friendship between man is nothing but a commerce in which each seeks his own interest. The same is true or even truerof the liaisons and treaties which bind one sovereign to another, for there is no durable treaty which is not founded on reciprocal advantage, and indeed a treaty which does not satisfy this condition is no treaty all, and is apt to contain the seeds of its own dissolution "

What has emerged now is the WEF lobbying for a new kind of communism crossed with fascism, what could go wrong? 😂

For me as a German it's disturbing that you use the current German flag as a symbol for the Nazis instead of the former Nazi flag as video Thumbnail

Here's why communism doesn't work, despite the "no true Scotsman" fallacy of those saying that it wasn't real communism. Communism is based on the basic principle of Marx's ideology which is the abolition of private property and communal ownership of all assets by all people. This communal aspect is something that works within a small group like a family or a village where the small number of people can easily decide what to do with these assets but when you get to the level of a nation, having all assets be equally owned by everyone, means that everyone will have to be involved in the decision making process equally which was completely unfeasible at the time Marx or Stalin or Mao lived and even today with the internet available to facilitate the process, its still impossible to get the 50-100 million people together in one zoom call and have them come to a consensus. This means you need a government! You need an elected body of administrators that make the decisions based on what's most beneficial for society as a whole. And THIS is where the problems begin. You have a group of people who act as administrators of a property without an owner, it takes godlike levels of morality for this group to not use its position to take ownership of this property for themselves. If not the first batch then the second or third will eventually do it and then you get a militaristic-police state dictatorship like the USSR or North Korea or China. It may not be immediate but it is unavoidable that communism will lead to that.

He reminds of the basic question to remember when dealing with someone from the Left: To what extent do they care for the poor or hate the successful? If it genuinely is the former, you can explain the inevitably of hierarchies (and how they have lifted billions out of abject poverty) and calmly discuss their plans to ameliorate the suffering of those at the bottom. You aren't led into accepting their moral superiority and becoming defensive. If it's the latter (hatred of the successful), you automatically have the moral high ground and can deliver a history lesson of where that has led, and give examples of what life would truly be like if the State dictated every aspect of life to (try but fail) bring about equality of outcome.

Genuine and pure communism has been implemented once successfully to my knowledge .. it was a single small village in Israel and it lasted about a generation an a half before it collapsed on itself .. no I don't believe we need to try this again and again and again and again and again

Has anybody taught these college kids that Nazi stands for national socialist movement??

I don't think it's a mystery why people are more repulsed by Nazism than Communism. The academics and intellectuals who conveyed history to us were quite happy to talk about the evils of Nazism, but were sympathetic towards Communism. So many of them are, because so many of them want to go down in history as the one who made it work and brought about utopia...

My perception is the fact that one was purging Jews who according to the Bible is God's chosen people from whom the Messiah would come, and this touched hearts everywhere because at the time it was the dominating religion in the world. Contrast that to Stalin who was purging everyone who was against his political and social ideas; does not strike us as terrifying as Hitler killing the Jewish people. I may be wrong but it's an idea.

That question was so looooooooooooooong

I have witnessed the best intentions turn evil. Its inherent in human nature to turn to your animal , in perceived crisis and away from soulful convictions. Yes Stalin was as bad or maybe worse than Hitler. Knowing Stalin killed and starved millions of his own, not in war but simply Lusting for power ,it places him in a league of his own. When Barbararosa occured ,Stalin had assassinated so many top Generals the military was nearly defunct. The perceivable difference among students from Government schools lays in the fact they go to public schools. The definition between (kill) and (murder) is not made Succinct by modern standards. Although I hold no enmity toward Russia and today is not 1920s/30s/40s one must realize not delivering the Coup De Grace is the substantial difference of good and evil.

Seven Principles of Catholic Social teaching. In order to I. Respect the Human Person We Must II. Promote the Family Which needs certain basic elements that only exist if we III. Protect Property Rights. This enables people to contribute from their goods to IV. Work for the Common Good Where they live and are able to recognize those who are most in need because they can V. Observe the Principle of Subsidiarity The result of which is that the whole community can VI. Pursue Peace and Care for the Poor Because they know the values that are shared when you VII. Respect Work and the Worker

When I was little boy in the early '60s I was told that Fascism/Nazism and Communism were _not_ polar opposites on a linear spectrum but as totalitarian ideologies, movements, and regimes they were on a spectrum that was a circle and as they got more and more extreme from the top of the circle to the right and to the left at the bottom of the circle they were practically touching each other. Totalitarianism of the extreme right or the extreme left practically touch each other at the circle's base.

We are always navigating inherent human evil . Always .

The difference in attitude towards Nazism vs Communism dates back to 1939. When WW2 began the view of Hitler was mainly positive, he was even Time Magazine's Man of the Year in 1938. Then it became necessary to portray him as an ogre and turn the people against Germany to prosecute the war and at the same time, to promote Stalin and Russia as heroes because they were our allies. Someone asked Churchill how he could suck up to Stalin after being an anti Communist all his life and replied, I would make an alliance with the devil himself to beat Hitler. Both threads, anti Nazi and pro Communism have gone on in the media and academia ever since. It's ironic that only since the collapse of the Soviet Union and liberalization of Red China have their monstrous crimes against humanity become public knowledge.

Haven’t heard any polar discussions that juxtapose Kerala with other Indian states. From what I understand Keralans have better health, pay, education and 100% literacy unlike other states… and it’s communist. Just a centrist observer here.

Also there is the fact, that Hollywood made countless movies about nazism and Hitler, it's iconic. Plus school curriculum don't include the doings of stalin and his hilk

The hammer and sickle is WORSE than the swastika.

It's not that communism is as bad as nazism. It's worse and it always have been.

In Venezuela it's illegal to list starvation as cause of death. In the west it's illegal to prescribe functioning medication to patients and it's also illegal to list a certain injection's side effects as cause of death. See the similarities ?

It's bizarre to me how many people fail to understand that Communism/Socialism/Fascism are basically the same thing but with a different coat of paint. In all three, the government holds supreme power and the people have virtually none. For those who think Socialism is better than the other two, I would direct your attention to the increasingly dictatorial behavior of both Canada and the EU. Totalitarian regimes ultimately all function the same, they just chant different things at their political rallies.

I always start as a premise with the photo of a Nazi and Soviet army officers shaking hand

Hey JP. Honest question here. When you talk about those that "apologize" for the failed doctrines in Communism, but attempt to redeem it somehow, how is that different ideologically, from the times that the Catholic Church apologized for their murderous mistakes, such as the Inquisition and other crimes? What is the difference between the seed and potential in Communism, which seems to always sprout murderously, and that of religious ideologies that can turn monstrous or saving, like Catholicism? I am a Catholic by the way. I'm thinking about this, because as a Catholic, many people say: "Yes I know the Church did such and such in the past, but that was not "real Christianity," and from it, Catholicism has had a chance to redeem itself. Thank you, and with great admiration and gratitude for your work.

If something requires anything to be perfect to work, it will never work.

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” - Winston Churchill