My new 62kWh battery is broken😞

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Dala's EV Repair

Dala's EV Repair

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My loss, your gain. Hopefully you can learn something from my mistakes in this video. When purchasing a battery, always make sure you get a Leafspy readout on the cell balancing and SOH. You will thank yourself.
Guide on 62kWh upgrade: www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopi...
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@matejorsag6515
@matejorsag6515 Рік тому
Cheer up Dala! It is going to be a great content, looking forward to see videos about "healing" and bringing this battery to life.
@aiev5545
@aiev5545 Рік тому
many times I've had repaired cells in new ze1 leafs with leakage from the corners, the cells have really bad hermetization and in 99.9% cases they are quickly repaired by proper sealant. So I insist on disassembling the pack and see what is going on with P0AA6. Anyway everything is going on for the greater good!))
@TheDaztheraz
@TheDaztheraz Рік тому
😂😂
@restfulplace3273
@restfulplace3273 Місяць тому
What is P0AA6? I had no idea. Searches….. hope this helps someone ‘DTC P0AA6 stands for “Hybrid Battery Voltage System Isolation Fault” This code is logged when the PCM detects an isolation fault in the high-voltage system. Possible causes include issues with the high-voltage battery and/or cables, as well as problems with the battery control module. Common symptoms include lit warning lights, a battery that doesn’t charge, and vehicle startup issues.’
@tiepup
@tiepup Рік тому
So sorry that your new battery is faulty, especially after all your hard work getting it ready.
@tommyduk1779
@tommyduk1779 Рік тому
I feel your pain, chum. Hope your luck turns soon!
@chriswaites1222
@chriswaites1222 11 місяців тому
Love the fact the 30kWh battery has the "don't put in a wheelie bin" symbol. Good advice, I got loads of grief from the dust men last time I tried that ;)
@Whereswally606
@Whereswally606 Рік тому
Finland is cold as shit. Ha ha ha.
@CrAzYDr1veR
@CrAzYDr1veR Рік тому
My friend bought a 62kw battery there was water inside fortunately it was not a lot so the cells were not damaged.
@andrewc9442
@andrewc9442 Рік тому
Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not "kw".
@t.w.3
@t.w.3 Рік тому
Don't give up. The battery can be fixed. Rustproofing battery and car is a great idea. I had my 2012.09 Leaf fully coated with Mercasol when it was new. After over 60000km in just over 1,5 years the underside still looked new. (South-West coast of Norway..) Now there is a lot of Gen 1 Leafs that are being crushed here as they have been used up. Batteries with 3-5 bars, no brakes, fully worn out suspensions, etc.. Soon the Gen1 Leafs will be no more.
@biggiz66
@biggiz66 Рік тому
Gutted for you Dala! Hang in there, i love seeing new videos from you and hope one day i can do half the stuff you have shown in your videos to my leaf. Good luck finding some replacement cells!
@paillart527
@paillart527 Рік тому
Hi Dala, no luck this time but keep in mind you are doing a so great job that help all of us. Maybe, could swap good cells from the 40 to the bad 62. Why not? Hope you will find a solution, I'm sure you will because we are wainting for the CCS study.......I joke, just putting some pressure. Thanks for everything you share with us. Keep your good attitude, make the world a little bit better.
@RLTIII
@RLTIII 7 місяців тому
Appreciate you sharing your experience with us
@stephenteelucksingh9811
@stephenteelucksingh9811 Рік тому
Sorry to hear that it hurts to lose all that money and labor but I love you work and know you will get through
@sunegroennebaek5283
@sunegroennebaek5283 Рік тому
I’m sorry for you. 😔 But happy I can follow you even longer down the battery-rabbit hole😊😊
@ErwinWernerTeichmann
@ErwinWernerTeichmann Рік тому
Amazing work Dala! I am learning a lot of new things with you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@gelisob
@gelisob Рік тому
9:02 from leafspy it shows 4 cells, if the layout in bms is kept the same then cells 1-48 is rear stacks. in 64kwh pack there are 4 towered stacks in rear. The faulty ones are in the first stack then.. the good news is that unlike the 24kwh pack - faulty ones cant push on everything when expanding. Only their tower. So if you can source one good rear towerstackj, it can be replaced :) Did the pack have any dents in it? Or maybe marks undenting.. as it's the first pack - it might be some collision damage that some corner hit the tower of cells.
@janhenkins
@janhenkins Рік тому
I'm sorry to hear about your pain, Dala! This is real life, and sometimes we don't get to use shortcuts. This 62kWh battery upgrade is one that many people will seriously consider, which is realistically a dependency before it's worth it going ahead with any CSS-related mods. On the bright side, it makes for excellent video material! :-)
@michelb613
@michelb613 Рік тому
As always, great video. Crossing my fingers that you are able to find a solution and salvage the battery pack.
@chargeheadsuk
@chargeheadsuk Рік тому
Sorry to hear this Dala, I'm sure you'll find a solution 💚
@W4rH4wkXX
@W4rH4wkXX Рік тому
UGH! we'll i cant wait for your video about a leaf battery as grid storage 😎
@rushanfernando7197
@rushanfernando7197 Рік тому
Hope you get good luck next time. A lesson to learn for all of us when buying refurbished batteries. Your videos are a great help for us. Maybe this is why repackaging is sometimes better than to get these refurbished OEM ones. With repackaging you can get newer cell chemistries like NCM811 and you know the condition those cells are in. Plenty of space for even more than 62kWh as new cells like NCM811 has higher energy densities than OEM Nissan ones. Then it all comes down to how you mount the cells/modules securely and distribute weight like in OEM modules. There's space for liquid cooling/heating even if you use 355 modules.
@MottyRuttner
@MottyRuttner Рік тому
I'm sorry looking forward to the update on the new cells
@wangorukihara8457
@wangorukihara8457 Рік тому
So sorry mate. I feel your pain. Big Q is how those lemons can turn into lemonade. Your content is amazing and the only channel that I have the notification bell on, keep it up!
@edalbagem
@edalbagem Рік тому
This is just a bump in the road. Keep up the good work!
@randallspringfield7400
@randallspringfield7400 6 місяців тому
We live in New Hampshire. Rust is a major issue here, too. FWIW your videos are helping me to navigate the tricky purchase of a used Leaf with a plan to improve the battery. I have great confidence you will bounce back from this challenging set back.
@DaleKlein
@DaleKlein Рік тому
Really nice rustproofing Dala. Sorry to hear about the cells. If the module can't be fixed, keep an eye out, one will turn up, or find another whole bad 62 pack. Then you're the guy in Europe with spare 62 modules! In my stationary storage, I have 2x 7s modules from a 62kWh pack (not sure if shipping is worth it or possible, but I would send if you need, I guess they're in good condition). But it looks like you need a 9s module.
@billbitner9142
@billbitner9142 Рік тому
A mere battery will not defeat Dala the Great! Hope you find the problem quickly and easy to fix.. we always learn something from your pain.. thanks for sharing!
@Euripides_
@Euripides_ Рік тому
Sorry to hear dude. Early in my leaf tinkering journey but will keep an eye out for some cells in Ireland
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 Рік тому
It's always the way when you're attempting to do the impossible, that you will have setbacks. Take encouragement from the fact that you have managed to fit the battery into the car in the first place. I'm sure you will find cells to replace the broken ones or another battery. As we say in England.....'chin up'.
@NB-ld1qt
@NB-ld1qt Рік тому
So sorry to hear this Dala. Rotten Luck.
@toni7345
@toni7345 Рік тому
Muchos ánimos Dala !! Seguro que con tus conocimientos la podrás reparar.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
¡Gracias!
@motorcircusfi
@motorcircusfi Рік тому
Thanks for sharing this experience also. After some fails the success feels even more sweet!😉
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
Thanks, I'm sure I'll get it sorted eventually 😅
@usmanchaudhry7991
@usmanchaudhry7991 Рік тому
Yo, good stuff man. Hope you get to the bottom of it. Love your workshop, wish I could help. But anyways keep on it, you’ll get there soon!!
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 12 днів тому
"i'm in Finland, and its cold as shit here" love it.
@siku5it
@siku5it Рік тому
I think you'll figure it out. You are smart! God bless!
@dougabbott8261
@dougabbott8261 Рік тому
Sorry for your pain Dala. Sometimes bad things happen to good people.Sorry again. 40 goes back in while you source parts to repair your 62. Once you confirm what has failed ,and what you need to get it going again, I am sure people will come forward with the parts you need. Perseverance prevails.
@tobyholland1961
@tobyholland1961 Рік тому
Sorry to see you're having trouble 😢
@rosshannemann7772
@rosshannemann7772 Рік тому
Battery will have to be used as house storage,gutting problem to find hope you get sorted,Dala thanks for showing.
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles 3 місяці тому
‘Speaking of over-doing it’…great approach.
@buildingbiology
@buildingbiology Рік тому
Thanks Dala to try all this < good Luck to you . The community loves your work Cheers Michael
@michaelarulanantham8833
@michaelarulanantham8833 Рік тому
Hope you manage to turn this project around
@scottzipf5503
@scottzipf5503 Рік тому
What a pain! I would love to see a tear down and bad cell identification video of the battery pack. Fingers crossed you can get hold of replacement cells.
@mattihallapuro8415
@mattihallapuro8415 Рік тому
Ei aina mee niinkuin Srömsöössä. Kiitos hyvistä videoista! Uusia odotellen ja toivottavasti löytyy akkuun tervettä palikkaa! It's not always like in Srömsööö. Thanks for the good videos! Looking forward to new ones and hopefully find a healthy chunk in your battery!
@wilmarochoa8042
@wilmarochoa8042 Рік тому
If there is someone who has the skills and attitude to overcome this problem is you. Maybe you have luck when opening the battery pack you find the leakage not inside the cell but any interconnection module strap or BMS connector... Cheers
@craglett
@craglett 10 місяців тому
Keep going Dala!
@jonhopwood8128
@jonhopwood8128 Рік тому
My sympathies.
@Sachith33333
@Sachith33333 Рік тому
My 30kWh having same issue. I’m also fed up with that
@DumbSkippy
@DumbSkippy 11 місяців тому
Mit Kuhlu from Australia. You are a Fin and Fins never fail. You had a sh|t day but you will bounce back. Good luck and if you ever visit Perth I'll buy you Finlandia and dinner.
@stevedutcher3875
@stevedutcher3875 Рік тому
Looking forward for the video you have on the high voltage battery pack to charge controller to inverter!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
Yes, just need to mount the battery on the wall! :)
@jwilkinson341
@jwilkinson341 7 місяців тому
I am so sorry to hear about the bad battery, when you put all that effort into it, I think there are a couple of companies starting to make the legacy Leaf battery from a NZ youtube channel I was watching
@JohnVance
@JohnVance Рік тому
You'll figure it out man!
@sirbagin
@sirbagin Рік тому
Great videos. So much work, I hope you'll find some spare modules soon. You seem to know the Leaf through out - I'm installing parking sensors in my one is there any way you can think of telling the system car is in "D"? In my tekna "D" allows you to use frontcam and goes off when accelerating I wonder if this could be used?
@contraplano3157
@contraplano3157 9 місяців тому
Good work. At least you can make undo, with an upgrade.
@AZACKAL
@AZACKAL Рік тому
Thank you for the information my man :) im considering this upgrade in a couple years if my leaf prooves to be reliable for me. :)
@MrNhenwood
@MrNhenwood Рік тому
if you do split the pack and find the broken cells, you may be able to get replacements internationally, as that may be a quicker way of getting your 62kwh pack running. otherwise you could sell your cells to recoup some (all?) your costs. Best of luck Dala
@lambasurm
@lambasurm Рік тому
Sometimes it helps just to open the pack and remove the cells, get them rebalanced and reinstall. Properly torque all connectors. A lot of work, but no expensive replacement parts needed.
@mastarce
@mastarce Рік тому
Don't give up. This is such bad luck :(
@markanthonyarochobeauchamp9682
@markanthonyarochobeauchamp9682 Рік тому
You are the master on this take the battery about find the bad and try to reset that cell
@davefromcave8202
@davefromcave8202 2 місяці тому
I just choked on my morning coffee, took a swig right as you said "I'm in Finland and it's cold as shit here" 😂😂😂😂😂 Just thinking if you lived in a hotter climate painting it with silver or white paint to help disopate heat might be a good idea
@ChirathAkon
@ChirathAkon Рік тому
Well the good news is if anyones gonna find a way around this... that is you !
@paul9156c
@paul9156c Рік тому
I feel for you. That's quite a lot of money to invest to have it fail. I have also read insurance is very high on electric cars.
@solarpall
@solarpall 2 місяці тому
Find the leaky module inside and build a thin catch tray so it doesn't ground out. Worth a try maybe.
@ilya_od_ua
@ilya_od_ua 10 місяців тому
Ouch! It would have been nice to check the battery before painting 🖌️ 😮
@gokhanceterez1043
@gokhanceterez1043 4 місяці тому
Dala. you a real hero for us. You saved several thousands of money in the future via us :)
@JoelBergmark
@JoelBergmark Рік тому
Too bad! You can use it to make some powerwalls and sell them to some solar nerds, maybe 4-5 pcs and some additional material snd maybe some bms if needed, that would be awesome project to watch
@Millsie18
@Millsie18 7 місяців тому
great video uplaod more :)
@richardkorber2217
@richardkorber2217 Рік тому
Super Video. Did you Check for torsion?
@shaystern2453
@shaystern2453 10 місяців тому
that's a bummer!
@jak8
@jak8 Рік тому
9:02 leaf spy says 1800+ DC charging :o maybe the heat ruined those cells
@__oK__
@__oK__ Рік тому
Buy Fluke 1507 to check isolation before installing the battery. I think installing 40kWh back and investigating the issue is way to go. I feel your pain, because I just repaired my Focus Electric isolation issue. Maybe you have to open bursted modules and renew those dead cells. But do not worry, we EV enthusiasts need these kind of experiences to learn about working with these. It feels bad now, but will give you knowledge to the future. Good thing is, that you can put old battery back and drive, I had to keep car in garage and drive with diesel so it was little expensive to had my EV stalling for a while. Hope you have problem investigated soon!
@grahamhill7845
@grahamhill7845 11 місяців тому
Luv, Luv to You Dala, I have no doubt You will come up with something. perhaps we can all keep our eyes open for some and how many do you need?
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Already fixed! See the next two videos in the series 😁
@MrNagafen
@MrNagafen Рік тому
Damn that's sad news. sorry it did not work. but I am insanely impressed with the fact that it said 200 km with the old pack. it is a real pity that diagnosing a batterypack isn't a thing until it is in the car. for reference I'm getting 60 km/charge in a 85% soh battery when charging to 80% so you still have a highly usable car.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
Yeah the problem was only visible at high SOC, so very hard to spot before it was installed!
@graz27
@graz27 Рік тому
That sucks, but I assume you going drop that battery for now and so maybe get it apart and see if any cells have expanded or corrosion etc and if by chance they have not, maybe remove weak cells and try to charge them up and see if that helps? Probably not but worth a shot until you can locate some replacement cells. Would have thought by now some third party could make cells for these. Must be a lot of Leaf's out there for it to be worthwhile now?
@LinusJohansson-yu7cy
@LinusJohansson-yu7cy Рік тому
That sucks... 😩 Maybe moisture got in the pack, or faulty BMS? I think you should start with taking the battery apart as soon as possible. Might be an easy fix after all and no need for new cells.
@meganwinters5163
@meganwinters5163 Рік тому
Sad panda 😢. I wish you all the best Dala!!! The rust proofing looks great! I'm definitely following you on that one for my 2015! Any chance you have an ETA on restocking your new chipset canbridges.?! Much appreciated of all your help and support for these great cars!!!😊👍
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
Thanks! Budget 2-port CAN-bridges are in stock!
@meganwinters5163
@meganwinters5163 Рік тому
@@DalasEVRepair Sweet!!!! Thank you Sir!!!
@allankvist6741
@allankvist6741 Рік тому
​@@DalasEVRepair Could you bypass bad cells and add another battery in series to raise voltage?
@andrewharpin6749
@andrewharpin6749 9 місяців тому
The pack in your shed was painted in a wet environment, hence it's bubbling up under the paint.
@xperyskop2475
@xperyskop2475 5 місяців тому
Cheer up😊
@linus-IO
@linus-IO Рік тому
Thanks for sharing also when things not go as planned! Do you have liberapay or something other than patreon to accept one time donations for making up for the loss? What about cells from 40kWh, not similar enough i guess?
@Wind9t9
@Wind9t9 Рік тому
We cannot always win, but your average is quite good
@VeniceHybridTech
@VeniceHybridTech 2 місяці тому
Hi Dala, I always watch and enjoy your content. You put in great efforts and are very good at what you do. Surely, it is a leak in the cells. When I am working with the hybrid batteries here in US, we just replace the leaking modules and also put a tape( I use making tape ) to avoid any contact between the metal surfaces. More, have you tried using new leaf modules from China as replacements ??????
@wjdijkstra414
@wjdijkstra414 Рік тому
Cheer up Dala, at least you still have the 40kwh to get back to, and a still running car! Some of us are on a 30kwh pack with 43% soh ;)
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
Agreed, this is a very privileged problem to have!
@18avshalom
@18avshalom Рік тому
Pfffff, I'm on a 24kwh pack with 10 miles range.
@Alex-tj1zo
@Alex-tj1zo Рік тому
Hi Dala What about just bypassing the bad cells altogether ? (until you can get the replacements) Of course the BMS wire will have to be dealt with... I am just raising this possible workaround, in case your knoledge of the battery tells you it's worth trying.
@Patchworkdaddy007
@Patchworkdaddy007 Рік тому
New video series, Dala power up a 64 battery!😉😂😍😍😍
@mikkesurfer
@mikkesurfer Рік тому
There is a connection to the chassis, cells that have lower voltage are being discharged over voltage measurement circuit. Remove the electronics if you wanna stop cells over discharging exceeding lower cut off limits. Check voltage between + and chassis, and - and chassis.
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 Рік тому
85 comments in and still nobody has said: Have you tried switching it off and back on again? Great rust proofing tips. I have had my 2011 leaf parked about 100m from the North sea for over a decade now and I suspect I'll soon be able to kick a hole in it. I'm frightened to look. I haven't had reason to be right underneath it for a few years!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair Рік тому
And if the restart doesn't help; Maybe putting it in a bowl of rice will fix it? 😅
@lbjpolston
@lbjpolston Рік тому
Now you're talking, Ah la Rich rebuild style😂
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 Рік тому
@@DalasEVRepair Big bowl of rice...
@MrPeregrines
@MrPeregrines Рік тому
Oh no! I am sorry about this :( Could it just be a cell imbalance which the balancers just need to balance out over time? How long has the battery-pack been disconnected/not charged?
@geirhaugen3781
@geirhaugen3781 Рік тому
It's not a total loss, the batteypack still have value. If you are patient, you will be able to find cells. Did I see some Exel poles, btw?
@GeorgeStar
@GeorgeStar 8 місяців тому
A pioneers life is not easy. Thank you for taking the slings & arrows so we don't have to! 🏹 On a positive note the 62kWh batteries should be more available in the future as these cars age out.
@nickthegreek8717
@nickthegreek8717 Рік тому
I love the way you say video 😅😅😅 Great wideo😂
@oalsaker
@oalsaker Рік тому
Did you watch the recent Tesla Bjørn video on repair of a Leaf battery? It seems they got some cells for their battery but I don't remember if it was for this type or a different type of battery.
@heinzruffieux5817
@heinzruffieux5817 11 місяців тому
Sorry to hear......but good job anyway! Where do you get those battery packs from? I tried to find some in Switzerland. No chance AT ALL....
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Norway!
@sircompo
@sircompo Рік тому
That's devastating 😢 Do you know anything about the vehicle that donated the battery? Forgive my ignorance, but it seems unlikely that a crash write-off donated battery that was physically intact would have suffered (or had already been experiencing) this issue, which suggests the battery fault was the reason the car was scrapped and they knew this when selling the battery.
@CampGareth
@CampGareth Рік тому
Does your region salt the roads in winter? I'm wondering how rusty my 10 year old Leaf is likely to be. Maybe it doesn't matter, hyundai ioniq 38kwhs are coming on the used market for reasonable prices.
@fire_stick
@fire_stick Рік тому
Can evhub in Norway help with battery cells ?
@ElectricNed
@ElectricNed Рік тому
Sorry about your terrible luck! Do you have access to a megohmmeter? Hopefully you can find some replacement cells.
@steffenfrkjr1424
@steffenfrkjr1424 Рік тому
know the feeling.. My 30kWh is close to same state.. (is still run, but do not like to run fast)
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 Рік тому
I hope you will find an insulation issue outside of the cells themselves. Otherwise your best approach might be to sell off the good cells and you should get most or even all your money back in exchange for a lot of work - especially is the cells are rare.
@stephenmooney9781
@stephenmooney9781 Рік тому
Shame. Keep positive
@badbenito
@badbenito 5 місяців тому
Wow. That's a bummer. Is there anyway to test the battery cells before installation?
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou Рік тому
Dang man. Maybe a fitting or something:/ good luck
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Рік тому
That's a shame.Try talking to Richard 'Moggie' Morgan at Electric Classic Cars, for suitable cells. He has several sources. Also try asking James of 'James and Kate', who has contacts, including his employer and Jonathan Porterfield, who might be able to help you to source the correct cells. I hope that you can fix this problem, Dala. Thanks for the video, and for the channel. Subscribed because of finding this one! So it's not all bad. 🙂👍
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