Park Tool DAG-3 Derailleur Hanger Alignment Gauge // A Bike Tool EVERYONE Loves! 🚲🔧❤️
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День томуThe Park Tool DAG is something almost every bike mechanic raves about. I finally got my hands on the updated DAG-3 tool released earlier this year and put it to good use on my bikes to ensure crisp and accurate gear shifting.
Park Tool DAG-3 Derailleur Hanger Alignment Gauge (Amazon US): amzn.to/3gFMSyb
Park Tool DAG-2.2 Derailleur Hanger Alignment Gauge (Amazon US): amzn.to/2WtIWd3
Park Tool Official DAG3 Info: bit.ly/3yxqhdv
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Video Index
0:00 Intro
1:57 Derailleur Hanger Alignment Giant TCR 2013
4:36 Derailleur Hanger Alignment Giant TCR 2019
6:44 Derailleur Hanger Alignment S-Works SL4
7:15 Wrap-Up
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@MrJaycobsen 2 роки тому
Bought one immediately after building my first bike, this should be used even on a completely new build.
@richardhutchings1980 2 роки тому
Serious bit of kit. The protractor for bike 🔧
@n.eilo_rides 2 роки тому
Thanks for this Shane. I picked up a ZTTO one from Aliexpress. All my bikes were way out most notably the old Scott Foil I use on the Kickr. Whilst looking into it I did swap out the supplied Kickr 5 cassette (Sunrace?) with a 105 one I had kicking around. The combination of a straight derailleur and cassette change has a big change on silencing drive chain noise👌👍
@gregboyd5815 2 роки тому
Good thing you waited for the DAG3, the DAG2 (while it did the job) was a bit clunky and (dare I say it) daggy ;)
@gplama 2 роки тому
I approve of this Dad joke. ;)
@WowRixter 4 місяці тому
I finally splurged and bought myself the DAG 3. I've got lots of bikes and interestingly, my Scott commuter bike was almost 1cm out and it wasn't the derailleur hanger, it was how poorly the frame was made. I had to really bend the hanger to make things 'right'
@gplama 4 місяці тому
Was it a frame with a non replicable hanger? My CR1 has one of those.
@WowRixter 4 місяці тому
@@gplama hanger is replaceable. I bought a spare (original Scott) hanger and when I mounted it, I was still 1cm out, so I knew it wasn't the hanger. I did manage to 'shape' it correctly, but I was quite worried about cracking the aluminum hanger given how far I had to bend it. Poor manufacturing quality on the aluminum Scott SUB 20 frame.
@sawdust1994 Рік тому
Great Video, thanks. Finally got the tool myself. Great to have this video to see in practice. Thank you.
@mikeprytherch8875 2 роки тому
That’s looks like a nice upgrade from the previous model
@5teve85 2 роки тому
Wow, I know just the mate I need to show this video to, Ive got 3 hangers which need adjustment 😁
@jimhansen5395 2 роки тому
I have a DAG2, and an Abby Tools DHG. I think I actually prefer the Park ( I know this is sacrilege). These things are so easy to use, and are instrumental for clean, precise shifting...
@Rob_33 2 роки тому
very useful - thank you
@conrad6226 2 роки тому
Omfg, thank you for this.
@cliffordchaperon6795 2 роки тому
Shane - you are so talented. Cheers for sharing this
@gplama 2 роки тому
Thanks for the kind words mate. There's not a lot of talent here.... but I am working on it. :)
@mechpatt 2 роки тому
I've got the DHG-2, now I'm sad - Park have really upped their game with the -3, that looks excellent! Well worth having if you have a few bikes to take care of, the minute adjustments help the derailleur work best.
@GNX157 Рік тому
Keep in mind if you do adjust, an indexing adjustment may also be needed, as well as limit screws checked, and remember on DI2, the concept and theory for upper and lower limit screws is different. On DI2, the derailleur body should NEVER rest on a limiter screw. Refer to the set up manual, but there should be a small clearance between the body and the screw tip. If the body rests against a limit screw, it could damage the servo motor and/or cause excessive battery drain.
@yonglingng5640 11 місяців тому
The gap is only for the High limit screw as the derailleur will overstroke slightly and then move back when it upshifts into top gear.
@GNX157 11 місяців тому
@@yonglingng5640 Check the guide, it’s for upper and lower. The body should never rest on the limit screws in either direction.
@yonglingng5640 11 місяців тому
@@GNX157 Just the upper, the manual states the lower limit screw only just touches the derailleur's stop tab. I've read multiple user manuals multiple times.
@GNX157 11 місяців тому
@@yonglingng5640 I’ve read them too. I don’t know which version or year, but I do recall a very small clearance was called for in both instances in the manual I had read. I see other newer manuals say slightly resting on the lower, but that’s new to me. In any case, my warning is generalized and says to consult the appropriate install guide for proper information.
@damianhall4554 2 роки тому
Shane... I use an old wheel (nut lock), screw it into the hangar (they are the same thread).... It looks very oddball. x2 wheels next to each other at the rear of the bike. BUT. The alignment, or otherwise of the hangar can be easily measured by how parrallel the second wheel hangs next to the main wheel. Works for me and it doesn't cost anything.... Hack or bodge? (As GCN would say)...try doing a comparison! Love the content buddy and keep it up! I have a photo of me doing the same, somewhere or other!
@luxsasha 2 роки тому
picked one up from your amazon us link woot ty
@murray1961 2 роки тому
Thanks so much for this.. I’m off to get one! In NZ lock down so off to the keyboard 😂
@gplama 2 роки тому
👊🏼🇳🇿
@B-Rad-K 2 роки тому
Definitely more refined than the DAG-2 that I have; that said I only paid $85 CAD for it a few years ago so can't really complain.
@sangchuw 2 роки тому
Look at that wheel!
@gplama 2 роки тому
The front one is even faster! ;)
@jbratt 2 роки тому
@@gplama I hope that speed imbalance doesn’t break the frame 😜
@michaelmechex 2 роки тому
I bought mine from aliexpress for like 20 euros, and while it doesn't look nowhere as nice, it works just the same. IMHO this tool is not worth owning if you only have road bikes, but it's pretty vital for mountain bikers. I've probably ridden my road bike 10x more than my mtb, road bike didn't need any dh adjustment yet but I used it on my mtb 3 times so far.
@joemurphy4489 2 роки тому
Have a DAG2, still BNB. Never used it. Will it give it a pull
@d.b.cooper170 2 роки тому
Been trying to convince the Shop head that we need to upgrade from the dag-2 to the dag-3 on all 5 benches 🤣
@lHolyDriverl 2 роки тому
Is Direct Mount hanger better then regular one to switch on? I think that DM is more stronger than regular one and won't break in case of crash instead of the derailleur. Find DM on Ali for my bike but $40 is overpriced for it :)
@thedownunderverse 2 роки тому
Abbey Bike Tools HAG. Nothing beats it!
@gplama 2 роки тому
AU$316.99. FMD! 💀🤣
@thedownunderverse 2 роки тому
@@gplama FMD = F My Derailleur (at that price), amirite? 😂
@byrondixon4648 2 роки тому
But my friend that has everything already has a detailer alignment tool. It's never been used.... It's waiting for me to borrow. 😎
@inspiredtotired8369 2 роки тому
According to the Urban Dictionary website. A "Dag" is a turd hanging off the rear end of a sheep (caught in the fleece) 😂 Shane, please have a word with the Park Tool marketing department 😉 Great video though.
@gplama 2 роки тому
I grew up in country Victoria. I'm all over dags..... wait... that's not the right way to put it. 🐑👌🏼🤣
@IanB17 2 роки тому
Handy to have certainly but these aren’t cheap (especially the Park Tool one) so realistically how often are you gonna need to use it? Think at that price I’d still be taking it to the shop if I think the hangar is out of alignment.
@luxsasha 2 роки тому
dude shops will charge $20+ and that doesn’t count the gas or your time taking it there. LBS are a huge time sink these days…not to mention how long your bike will stay there
@nedt 2 роки тому
Direct mount hanger? Is that the same or a version of the sram UDH ? (Universal derailleur hanger). The UDH has been a game changer for my MTB as they are so cheap 10-20$ and will be a viable everywhere. Made my dag2 redundant for mtb but I still keep it around for the gravel bike.
@gplama 2 роки тому
The UDH looks like it does a whole lot more. These direct mount hangers don't do a lot, imo. They're lighter (that's a win... of a few grams..🤣) and they say they're 'stiffer'... but.... *shrug*...
@diracflux 2 роки тому
Noob question; Would the small amount of force being use to bring it back into alignment be far less than the stresses on it when riding, so it could bend back out of alignment, especially if riding over small bumps?
@benpoynton6379 2 роки тому
It's a fair amount of force using a dag. General riding won't, or shouldn't, bend a hanger
@murray1961 2 роки тому
How about wheel/disc truing. Any experience what would you use?
@gplama 2 роки тому
Not something I've tackled. Wheels are something I take to the bike shop when I need that done.
@Huzz00 2 роки тому
It is important to consider how true your wheel is before using a DAG. Lots of videos around on truing wheels. Hard to do well without a spoke tension guage.
@murray1961 2 роки тому
Hey Huzz could you use the DAG as a crude on bike wheel/disk alignment tool? like in a pinch at the car park.
@allyp7 2 роки тому
thats a crazy amount of money
@holdentrout7193 8 місяців тому
Hey Shane, how’s the DAG-3 been holding up? Any issues so far?
@gplama 8 місяців тому
All good. Super useful to have in the toolbox.
@gerardcummins4595 2 роки тому
What bike stand do you use Shane
@gplama 2 роки тому
This is a Feedback Sports Sprint
@klausbinn777 2 роки тому
Are you still evaluating the Rotor InSpider? Any change in opinion since you first got it? Future video maybe?
@gplama 2 роки тому
There’s a new firmware I need to dig into. Soon.
@orthooffice7560 2 роки тому
I'm at that friend and I have purchase it HAHAHAHA T>T
@vincem5 2 роки тому
My partner snaps her hanger at least once a year. shes hard on gear lol
@KeatB 2 роки тому
If you’re straightening a hanger which is bolted to a carbon dropout, is there a worry that you’ll pull the screws out of the frame?
@johannesbruun8213 2 роки тому
No, when the wheel is in, it holds the hanger and takes the load.
@AG17_1 2 роки тому
No, but always ensure the hanger retaining bolts are nice an tight....but don't over tighten, you'll strip or shear the head in the bolt especially those with tiny hex heads
@michaelmechex 2 роки тому
If your bike has screws going straight into carbon then it's a very dumb design. Screws usually thread into the hanger. Some carbon frames even have aluminum dropouts, (generally lower end ones, because it's heavier even though it's more durable) so it could be an option there, but manufacturers still avoid it for good reasons. So to answer your question, no, there is no worry because all the threads are cut into aluminium.
@andreweckert9592 2 роки тому
@@AG17_1 Also if the hanger retaining bolts have metallic female threads a little bit of Blue loctite is a good insurance policy
@AG17_1 2 роки тому
@@andreweckert9592 not something I tend to do. I've had to drill out more than enough of these bolts over the years when they get stuck, usually when corroded to the hanger and the bolt head strips or bikes come to me with pre-stripped bolt 🥴
@jonathanzappala 2 роки тому
I use my homemade one a lot. I try to be careful, it’s not working.
@mgoo1713 2 роки тому
It pisses me off my 15+ year old DAG2 won't work with a lot of newer derailleur hanger.
@yonglingng5640 11 місяців тому
Yes, it's only incompatible with bikes with chunky dropouts, like Trek disc brake road bikes. This is the reason I bought the DAG-2.2 since I couldn't buy the DAG-3 (out of stock at that time).
@michelk8390 2 роки тому
I have been looking for this tool for over a month but nobody has stock. Does anyone have a suggestion where I can buy this?
@gplama 2 роки тому
I found mine on Amazon. There's links in the video description.
@mib7483 2 роки тому
Can I borrow your DAG3? lol
@fepatton 2 роки тому
Oh man - that is just terrifying. I can imagine doing that adjustment, accompanied by the sound of the chainstay snapping. 😬
@gplama 2 роки тому
The hanger will snap well before the chainstay gives up on life.
@potgieterares 2 роки тому
Did you buy your DAG from Brad Pitt in a Gypsy caravan park?
@klausbinn777 2 роки тому
Do you like dags?
@KHGan-zr3ez 2 роки тому
Your ZIPP wheel is hookless version?
@gplama 2 роки тому
Yes.
@KHGan-zr3ez 2 роки тому
@@gplama I have a new ZIPP firecrest 404 hookless version, but still confused should use which tyres is better and fast, cause hookless wheel like less tyre can choice. Can give some good advice to me please.
@gplama 2 роки тому
@@KHGan-zr3ez Stick with the recommended/supported hookless list over on the SRAM website. From there head over to the "Bicycle Rolling Resistance" website to see how they perform.
@KHGan-zr3ez 2 роки тому
@@gplama thank you so much
@hptator 2 роки тому
any slack/play?
@gplama 2 роки тому
In what exactly?
@hptator 2 роки тому
@@gplama between the bolt and the arm
@gplama 2 роки тому
None. There would be a problem if there was.
@hptator 2 роки тому
@@gplama unfortunately most of them have... Ok, so now wait until they lower the price a little bit...
@pam00088 2 роки тому
Woah, woah, woah. I thought bending a hanger back into alignment was regarded as a bad idea?! The money I could have saved on having replacement hangars shipped from Canyon...
@Sansuiification 2 роки тому
Putting on a new hanger on, does not mean it´s automatic parallel with the centerline of the Wheel/Frame. It depends on the surface it mounts to. Straightening is allowed within X millimeters after crash for instance, but not to many times of course.
@andreweckert9592 2 роки тому
If its badly bent a replacement would be a better option. However most "good" bike shops would use this tool when installing a new hanger as well. Even new hangers may need slight adjustments.
@pam00088 2 роки тому
Good to know. Thanks!
@Tntdruid 2 роки тому
I made one for like 20 $
@wubble666 2 роки тому
The one point that I dont think you mentioned is that this tool required that you have a wheel has been trued and dished to ensure that you are not realigning to a error in the wheel not the hanger.
@gplama 2 роки тому
That's why you always measure at the same point on the wheel, the valve. 2:25
@FlorinBalanescu 2 роки тому
Seems very expensive for this low-tech tool. 2.2 looks just as effective as the 3, but half the price. I'd say that even 80$ is very expensive for such a tool.
@janplexy 10 місяців тому
for €150 I can buy 10 spare hangers to replace them instead of fixing them.
@Factor.y776 2 роки тому
I'm not ready to pay 200 dollars for an aluminum stick
@gplama 2 роки тому
Don’t look too closely at what the rest of the bike is made of, and what they charge. 🤣
@ozgurinsan Рік тому
why is it so overpriced?
@gplama Рік тому
Because it’s Park Tool
@Raumance 9 місяців тому
Seems way overpriced at 200€. I could pay 80€ for it.
@evdb7246 2 роки тому
Wow, we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for video topics, no?
@gplama 2 роки тому
Feel free to make a suggestion of what you would like to see. Maybe head over to GCN or somewhere more interesting?
@davidgeorge9233 2 роки тому
Nothing wrong with this video, the amount of people with misbehaving gears suggests more people need to know about this!
@Huzz00 2 роки тому
No. Given Shane's audience this is good advice for so many roadies who complain about bad shifting and have no idea what to do about it. When asked if they have checked their hanger alignment the usual response is....Huh? I've fixed countless bikes with my DAG. Having said that, perhaps there could have been more detail of the features of the tool itself.
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