Snapdragon 865 Internals Revealed!

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Gary Explains

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Qualcomm has launched it new flagship System-on-a-Chip, the Snapdragon 865. It is an octa-core processor, with 4x Cortex-A77 cores and 4x Cortex-A55 cores; and includes an Adreno 650 GPU; has support for LPDDR5 plus a 2 gigapixels per second Image Signal Processor. Want to find out more? Please let me explain.

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Vishnu Prasad
Vishnu Prasad 11 місяців тому
Love from Mars!!
Grapy's Meal time
Grapy's Meal time Рік тому
Always looking forward to ur explanation videos. Great info
Safak Tan Ozkan
Safak Tan Ozkan Рік тому
Always on mic with keyword aware AI chip? No thanks, i don't like what ever I talk is shown to be in the ads. That why no Facebook no instagram on my phone. İt Feels like paranoya.
TrendyVhybz
TrendyVhybz Рік тому
I've never been this lost in my life :{
Joel Joseph Reji
Joel Joseph Reji Рік тому
Always listening sure sounds scary
Mui MasMacho
Mui MasMacho Рік тому
But can it do phone? My smartphone does everything but phone. But it's real fast at texting... messages arrive 2000uS before they're even sent. Three processors are dedicated to handling animated emoticons alone! That's right... ANIMATED EMOTICONS!!! How many Cores are required for pizza downloads?
I Watch Everything
I Watch Everything Рік тому
Here I am with SD652 Thought still good for daily usage and low res gaming 😂
L B
L B Рік тому
Always listening.... Me: ALWAYS turning it off!
Yair
Yair Рік тому
OpenCL not supported on Android ( see RenderScript )
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
How did u know ? Where did u find..
Fat Badminton
Fat Badminton Рік тому
Qualcomm become more like Intel, they become lazy to improve more when they realize competitors are struggle, they just play wait game
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Michael Hazell Why did u think snapdragon can't compete with apple cpu and gpu ? and i want to ask u questions why apple chip design architectures they has the bigger die size ? ok thank you..
Michael Hazell
Michael Hazell Рік тому
@duck duck actually no, there is more gains with apples gpu and CPU. They have thoroughly decimated snapdragon every year, snapdragon can't even compete with apples chips the previous year. The only thing that has people at the edge of their seat is next year with exynos and amd Radeon gpus. This year is blah for snapdragon, the only cool thing is upgradable drivers through the playstore with more uniform drivers instead of oem vendors messing up driver updates
duck duck
duck duck Рік тому
Say that to apple. There is NO difference between a11 a12 and a13. Just 5-10 second difference. Qualcomm improves their cpu and gpu alot every generation. Wdym?
Michael Hazell
Michael Hazell Рік тому
@Kratos the memory channels alone shows the sd855 is more stable than the 835. There is a more consistency on 855 than there is with 835.
Kratos
Kratos Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad no fucking diff only 5or 10sec fast in actual usage. Why would anyone spend exyra money for this
Apfelsaft
Apfelsaft Рік тому
Gaming : A13 ? Sd865? Kirin990? Exynos is crap for Gaming Or? Pls help
Aiman Zikri
Aiman Zikri Рік тому
A13
Winsen
Winsen Рік тому
So should i buy phones with 865 or wait for 875?
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Jai Singh no u are wrong they have 4g modem but it doesn't have 5g modem which external modem too put inside that chip yes it maybe increase battery consumption and overheat but behind that he must have a reason why they use external modem for 5g but wait !! What did u mean by overheating? Really 7nm architecture is less heating process as l know because the nanometer or the size whole chip is become really smaller.. can u tell me about that little bit..
Jai Singh
Jai Singh Рік тому
New negatives are emerging about 865 that it doesn't even have 4G modem.. which gonna increase battery consumption, overheating
Parag vyas
Parag vyas Рік тому
MEDIATEK INITIATED THE BATTLE......LIKE ✨AMD✨.....SO ......AT THE END ....WHAT WILL HAPPEN🤔..........😑🤐
ne0tic
ne0tic Рік тому
Do you think it will be more powerful than the A13, or at least close?
Peter McHenry
Peter McHenry Рік тому
Will WiFi 6 be fully supported?
The,Awakened satan within christ
The,Awakened satan within christ Рік тому
About 1065 snapdragon coming out soon
Anas Khalil
Anas Khalil Рік тому
When we will see Speed Test G with Qualcomm reference device?
Stubbo242
Stubbo242 Рік тому
Gary is the man to explain!
zikeyy
zikeyy Рік тому
isn't this the guy from that one tv show called myth busters?
AnimeFreak-san
AnimeFreak-san Рік тому
Now when you say it, I can see the similarities
Mahender Rao Mesineni
Mahender Rao Mesineni Рік тому
👌✌👍
natedgr8
natedgr8 Рік тому
SD 865 the A11 killer🤪
duck duck
duck duck Рік тому
Well, after all the apple fanboying about the 865 competing against the a11, they now stand neck and neck 865 and a13. The 865 will be faster when actual manufacturers like Samsung use it.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Yes surely bro no doubt !!!
Franklin Hatch
Franklin Hatch Рік тому
Apple A13 Chip is still better
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Better for cpu , gpu other things is trash
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
How do you know? Did you test it?
Rumman Huda
Rumman Huda Рік тому
5:47 144MHz ??? What drugs are you on?
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Obviously I meant 144Hz, I misspoke. 🙄
Magic Monkey Dust
Magic Monkey Dust Рік тому
Look into this further for yourself... This is actually better and quicker than the A13. And more economical and more dynamic. This is far more capable and dynamic processor than A13. And that sub system memory of lpddr5. This is insane. 8k? And the GPU is very impressive. Supposedly the GPU of apple is relatively 40% less than what was in the A12. But they are claiming that it is a 20% increase. But actually that is not true when carefully analyzing such details. And being able to download GPU drivers... Wow. This altogether is just by far better than A13. Problem with A13 is the heat after 40 mins on pubg ultra. And 25% battery drain in 40 mins. So hot 🔥 ouch. Apple have no cooling system. 855+ is actually better for games than A13. And runs circles around A13. Check out the realme x2 pro vs iphone 11 pro max. Realme leaves iphone 11 pro max for dust.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Yeah bro even the gpu can update for itself now available for sd 865 after this u can update for yourself without getting and waiting from google... update this is big deal for gaming actually because the gpu driver can update for it's own through the playstore no need to upgrade new phone , new chipset people in this comments section below owhhh sd 855+ are not huge jump from 865 i mean what the hell... is that.. many things and other feature can be look like sd 865 provided did not include in 855+ for example can 855+ can do that exact same things ? Not right and one more things don't look at how much big performance gpu 20% and 30% power efficiency don't look at that number maybe 25% can be higher as possible same things to power efficiency and the cpu performance as well... against that i say many2 times to people sd 865 is a big upgrade for those who want the maintaining performance , gpu performance... just like pc can update their gpu driver without waiting too much now is in mobile is not possible can do that things so yeah huge upgrade for those who are gamer anyway this is my opinion for myself you can agree or disagree becoz i look whenever i want to upgrading the chipset i did not look just at the cpu and gpy only.. but AI , isp , memory , elite gaming , speed data , wifi and any other stuff there
Magic Monkey Dust
Magic Monkey Dust Рік тому
Not a good phone at all. Nearly 50°C cpu temp on ultra settings on pubg? A13 is crap. Honestly. A con. 855+ way better for heavy gaming... What's the point in these bench tests when it can't handle the graphics options like 855+ Snapdragon? 865 would eat the iPhone 11 pro max alive. And after just 10 mins? On a lower graphics setting than the 855+ and gets way too hot? 50°C??? Forget it. Snapdragon 865 with proper liquid cooling systems. IPhones are for simple corporate Muppets. I hope many idiots buy this phone. Whilst we have the 865. Give this phone of folly. To those that want folly.
dinozaur pickupline
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In a13 apple should have opted for lpddr5,now they can fool people next year aswell
Y AB
Y AB Рік тому
And to think we're getting the exynos 990 instead of this in the s11
sdq sdq
sdq sdq Рік тому
i already boycott sammy phone , long ago
Nitin Jain
Nitin Jain Рік тому
Can u compare 990 exynos and 865 snapdragon processors in new video ... Plz !
Polyester Avalanche
Polyester Avalanche Рік тому
Drivers from the Play Store....yes, more of that please!
samon
samon Рік тому
I wish they'd make mobile chips replaceable like amd motherboard and CPUs in a desktop, open it up pull out the chip install a new one. And wallah! A new powerful chip
samon
samon Рік тому
@Max they may, I'm just saying wish they figure out a way, and not sotter the chip so you can change with other chips maybe with same gen, leave everything else the way it is
Max
Max Рік тому
Phone would get too thick for that, Apple iPhones are already FAT even though the motherboard is the most compact in the market, now imagine that but 50% thicker.
samon
samon Рік тому
@Mianlo 2 nah not fully but just chips. screen too but can already change them 🤷
gamester1416
gamester1416 Рік тому
Even with all these advances, I still think that the companies that are going to get them. they aren't going to use the full potential of these chip.
Bryan Christian Dianco
Bryan Christian Dianco Рік тому
oneplus would push erverything. trust me
Jane Brown
Jane Brown Рік тому
I like snapdragon chips for amazing gaming performance. But honestly new battery technology is really needed they can't get better efficiency as much as before , just software and hardware now. Batteries should get better too. It's different from chips explaining but it's the thing which is staying old for years.
Max Wise
Max Wise Рік тому
who cares about 5G? especially, in the USA it will never happen here! and when it will happen, guess what? it will cost 3 times more than in Europe!
OsamaBinObama
OsamaBinObama Рік тому
Nobody needs 5G
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
LOL, T-Mobile just switched on it nationwide 5G service... www.androidauthority.com/t-mobile-5g-launch-1061710/
Arman Hadi
Arman Hadi Рік тому
Amazing content.
kunal pahuja
kunal pahuja Рік тому
Can you make a video on A55 cores being less efficient compared to Apple's low powered cores. I read that A76 is more energy efficient than A55 if clocked lower ?
Jules
Jules Рік тому
Yeah A55 are getting a bit obsolete.
jve89
jve89 Рік тому
I wonder when only super computers had the equivalent performance of the 865. In the 80's I guess but I'm not sure.
Aminos
Aminos Рік тому
Hi Gary, could you compare the AI power NPU's of Ex990, SD665, Ki 990 and A13 when you'll do your comparaison video please.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Aminos Apple actually has 5 tops in A13 , 1 tops for cpu itself to do their work as fast as possible that why apple put it there 1 tops for the cpu... A12 before doesn't have 1 tops at cpu
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Aminos what 10 TOPS samsung has their procesosor ? And if you can give me your guesses how much kirin has In Ai performance?
Aminos
Aminos Рік тому
@Gary Explains Thanks for your answer, you're right, I can't find the same metric for each processor. As an exemple Samsung announces 10 TOPs, Qualcomm annouces 15 TOPs, Apple 1 TOPs even tho they announced 5 TOPs on the A12 last year. And Kirin hasn't announced something similar in this metric.
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
That is a little tough because NPUs is a bit of a "wild west" at the moment. Lots of claims about speed and performance, but no real way to verify them. I will include the quoted numbers, but they probably aren't worth much.
Gunjandeep Khera
Gunjandeep Khera Рік тому
Noise aware kind of thing is nice IF it can be used to trigger SOS... Like in case a woman needs help... or someone has had an accident/medical issue.
kodaph
kodaph Рік тому
I love Gary, yet I had it in playback @1.25x and I love it even more.
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
LOL, I had a comment about two days ago that said it was better to listen to me on 0.75x because I speak too fast! 😂😂
Devara FT
Devara FT Рік тому
Here I am still with Adreno 505...
GameTVon
GameTVon Рік тому
Were same im using Adreno 509 5th generation still kicking
Sigma C
Sigma C Рік тому
Can you put the transcript closer to the camera??
Sigma C
Sigma C Рік тому
@Gary Explains oh it looked like you were repeatedly looking something on the side of the camera
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Transcript? What transcript? All my videos are extemporaneous.
Josh R
Josh R Рік тому
Soc's have gone waaaaaaayyyyy past what the average consumer needs 😯 ...u know, the Facebook, Instagram, whatsapp, UKposts crowd
Peter Farah
Peter Farah Рік тому
Good now it will be better than the A11.
zoltek7
zoltek7 Рік тому
Minor update, probably with more heat, more battery consumption and with bigger mobo's with that external modem. So the phones will be even more expensive. I'll probably go with SD855 for my next phone.
Bora Siman
Bora Siman Рік тому
I still don't believe that 865 can record dolby vision hdr yeah it would record the so called DV but not true DV
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Bora Siman okok i respect too your comments
Bora Siman
Bora Siman Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad DV is not your average HDR but im gonna get a 865 phone next year and im gonna test if for myself
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
How did you know whether if the true or not ? It can record dv or not did you ever try this not right lol pls comments a properly
Rikesh Shrestha
Rikesh Shrestha Рік тому
Why cant qualcomm increase L2 cache like Apple. Apple cpu has 8mb L2 cache i think.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
The cost bro easy answer no need to explain why qualcomm can't increase their L2 cache inside their procesosor no wonder here
Techno Man
Techno Man Рік тому
Hiiii
Justin Hoskins
Justin Hoskins Рік тому
I wonder how this compares to the A13 Bionic.
Full Moon
Full Moon Рік тому
Peter Farah ?
Peter Farah
Peter Farah Рік тому
Justin Hoskins it will compare to the A12 not A13.
Sateesh Patil
Sateesh Patil Рік тому
Always hearing us! Companies will invent new ways to steal our privacy. I think there must be an option to disable it. By the way OnePlus will be the first to implement LPDDR5.
Bobby Roberts
Bobby Roberts Рік тому
Unfortunately not, Samsung produces those exclusively and Samsung smartphone are those to get Lpddr5 first in February. Oneplus releases flagship in May or later.
Ephraim
Ephraim Рік тому
Nice video....hope we'll get the comparison between the 865,Kirin 990, Exynos 990 and the A 13....
Emiel333 Official
Emiel333 Official Рік тому
I’m curious how the SD865 performs compared to the A13 SoC. I must say, Qualcomm does a great job the last couple years to compete with Apple.
Bora Siman
Bora Siman Рік тому
@Emiel333 Official its ok but still even though QSD are like "1 year behind" compared to apple chips that's why it has higher scores on geekbench haha well its just a scores not real world performance and apple iphones like 11 pro its very fast cause its the only phone using their own chip and yes almost all android phones are using QSD but they're SD powered android phones that will be faster overall on real world performance and not all SD powered phones will have the same performance.😊
Peter Farah
Peter Farah Рік тому
RedDevilus 999$ for the iPhone 11 pro = 999$ for the note 10
Peter Farah
Peter Farah Рік тому
Clickbait Pro hahaha talk about delusional. Just wait until it is out. The sd 865 is just going to be barley competing with the A12. Currently even the sd855+ is still a little bit slower than the A11..
Clickbait Pro
Clickbait Pro Рік тому
@Peter Farah That's delusional, sd 865 is better package with its faster data and wifi speeds, 144hz display support, 8k video support. I don't use benchmark everyday so SD 865 is superior than A13 for me at least
B Floyd
B Floyd Рік тому
@FX Apple processors don't fall in the same timespan as Qualcomm processors. Apple A processors actually kick off the next generation. Apple release their new process in Sept, followers by Kirin( which can be stated as behind), followers by SD in Dec. By the time the A14 comes out. The 865 is old. U have to compare the A14 to the 875.
lowkey
lowkey Рік тому
This has always been the reason why I hate the time frame that the note series comes out. Like the note 10 plus should have had the 855+ vs the regular 855. Not saying the 855 is slow by no means just this late in the year it should have had the latest chipset so the difference in performance for a 1099.99 phone isn't 25% compared to the new chipset.
gaming creates worlddd 24
gaming creates worlddd 24 Рік тому
it is 25%faster than 855 and 8.7%faster than 855+
MaransReviewBox
MaransReviewBox Рік тому
Gary. 144 Mhz or 144 Hz display?
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Hz obviously, I misspoke.
Adiffkindofswag
Adiffkindofswag Рік тому
I can't believe I'm actually saying this but it really seems like Mediatek will end up having the best mobile SOC on the market with their Dimensity 1000.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@अल्ली X i saw sd 712 pubg without any problems too with less heating... same performance on the devices so is no big deal btween g90t and sd 712 both doing really good job they is no diff there in perfromance unless you wanna g90t is winning all the way... comparing him in benchmark lol no dude benhmark ? Really ? No sorry to say who are dumb here now me or you u still believed benhmark score ? Those not accurate score especially in real life doing the heavy task whether if light task or heavy benhmark can't be used and believe at all we are here 2020 i dont understand why you still believe the benchmark infront off your eyes dude you can clearly see nothing benhmark provided to comsumer... unless they want to cheat lol i personally don't believe this shittest tool since 2018 think of about that bro...
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@अल्ली X why you include apple ? We are talking here about gms no apple here... lol
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@अल्ली X too much step and more complicated to do it down google service from net not everyone can do it and not everyone know about that you are literally nonsense Lol
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@अल्ली X i don't wanna talk too much G90T he is luckily get cooling systems if not it will get hotter than usual no custom rom dev support , wow2 dude did you really think does benchmark is everything for you ? Everything for you life ? Lol those can't be use in real life sd yeah maybe get destroyed in benchmark but not in real life.. in real life time they perform better pubg settings graphics hdr , high no problem to play maintaining the frame rate drop no heating issue , no ghost touch screen , no delay touch when you playing with gyroscope.. overall sd is perform better than mtk in real life usage those benhmark are rubbish can't using it and trusted anymore who is gonna believe 2020 benhmark are still relevant can be used no dude...
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@अल्ली X destroy by what ? Sd 730g is still beast chipset with the elite gaming helio g90t is comprable to sd 712 they must compare with sd 730 since the gpu he use g76 mc4 but less core and i think the price is not too far btween sd 712 , 710 or 730 siries both give a good price to buy... kirin 810 ??? Really what planet are you come from ??? Ahahahaha those kirin 810 are trash can't be use at all in global set market haha yes they are powerfull but unfortunately in global rom Huawei will give to customer kirin 710f on huawei device 9x as well but in china they get 810 with no gms... so is a bit compromise... there.. haha ohh i think i forgot to tell you kirin 710f come with along gms from google directly so i give you question which one did you want to survive bad chipset but with gms , and good chipset but no gms pls let me know wired
Adiffkindofswag
Adiffkindofswag Рік тому
Prime Core = Win the Antutu/Geekbench core.
Da Fuq
Da Fuq Рік тому
Why do all recent Snapdragons have 8x5 numbers?
B Floyd
B Floyd Рік тому
8 is the series, the x is the generation, the 5 is really a mystery
2020 vision
2020 vision Рік тому
The A14 chip from Apple will smoke the 865 😭😂😭😂
Mauro
Mauro Рік тому
Can't wait for the gtest
盾神京矢
盾神京矢 Рік тому
4:30 The GPU of 865 should be just around 8.7% better than 855+. We can calculate 855 = 1x GPU speed (baseline) 855+ = 1.15x (15% better than 855) 865 = 1.25x (25% better than 855) 1.25/1.15 = 1.087 Therefore the GPU in 865 is just 8.7% better than 855+.
Maxwell Adams
Maxwell Adams Рік тому
@gaming creates worlddd 24 it had 7 tops the 855
Do IT YT
Do IT YT Рік тому
@ahsan galib only Hexagon 698 is big leap over 855 7 tops is now 15 tops.....it can translate languages without internet ...what else is more robotic
duck duck
duck duck Рік тому
It's just a standard 865. When it gets overclocked to 865+ that's when the real difference starts to show.
ahsan galib
ahsan galib Рік тому
Its actually a bit better than 855+ ...... nothing game changing
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Max Then tell me what is different android gpu soc run on Vulkan api ??
RealLifeTech
RealLifeTech Рік тому
Qualcomm: Here you have 4k@120fps in your face + a 64MP photo of the exact impact moment or if you also want an unlimited 960fps slo-mo Google Pixel 4 XL: leaves the room at 30fps for 900$
Brad Haines
Brad Haines Рік тому
@Full Moon or last gen for 400 less, if not even higher discount. love my s9+, got it last year for 550 (the 128gb model)
Full Moon
Full Moon Рік тому
RealLifeTech Samsung is definitely much more worth it for just about $200 more.
KCNew Chopra
KCNew Chopra Рік тому
Compare the 865, Huawei Mediatek samsung flagship chips on paper and benchmarks
Dilpreet Singh
Dilpreet Singh Рік тому
Plz change your beginning.plz
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Indeed, just your opinion.
Dilpreet Singh
Dilpreet Singh Рік тому
I mean the way u say " let me explain" It aint pleasing, its just disruptive in good flowing video! Just my opinion!
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Why?
Maged Hanna
Maged Hanna Рік тому
Compare snapdragon 865 with exynos 990 please 🌟🌟👑
DeviLefty
DeviLefty Рік тому
Damnnn 960fps non stop... woohoo... So can they have 2k fps in limited time frame tho?
Xeuron
Xeuron Рік тому
Soon, soon
TednTin
TednTin Рік тому
I am fine with it listening always because it is just looking for specific trigger words and also because everything will be processed locally
Akash Patel
Akash Patel Рік тому
I think process is also changed now it is using 7nm EUV process
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
7nm euv use in sd 765 siries including G siries
Gautam Naik
Gautam Naik Рік тому
Sorry
Manas pareek
Manas pareek Рік тому
Everything good but what about the 5G infrastructure and NOC from environmentalists!
Pravin Patil
Pravin Patil Рік тому
Waiting for your benchmark predictions of the sdm865.
Jimmy
Jimmy Рік тому
Do you think Qualcomm isn't comparing the 865 with the 855 plus because they are making 865 plus later in 2020?
Mai Nerds
Mai Nerds Рік тому
So when are they gonna release the 865+ and the 600 series for the next year?
James Mutombo
James Mutombo Рік тому
Actually there is a performance upgrade in the fabrication process. The 855 and 855+ used TSMC's N7 while the 865 uses TSMC's N7P.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@azrul nizam what apple is going on with big silicon ? Does it matter ? What about the volume of transistors every block silicon qualcomm are not saying about that ? If you know the answer pls let me know
azrul nizam
azrul nizam Рік тому
Wan Maziah Ahmad Apple as always going with a big silicon where Qualcomm usually remain conservative to keep the cost down.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
What is different between them ? And how much transistors we get in 865 ? Apple got 8.5 bilion transistors operation on second gen 7nm+ from tsmc last at not least sd 865 and 855 use the same 7nm process no plus there
SD
SD Рік тому
People were so furious when Exynos 990 was 20% overall faster than 9825 seems 865 will be similar compared to 855
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@SD ok
SD
SD Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad no denying 🕺🕺
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@SD denying ?
SD
SD Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad no denying in gpu area mali gpu sucks but let see this year it's new design
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Huge difference dont look at the cpu , gpu the elite gaming is a major upgrade on sd 865 huge jumping there
miki swordbreaker
miki swordbreaker Рік тому
Meanwhile in Exynos..Arm A76 cores..gege..nerf to match to Qualcomm slow cpu..
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Because the A77 cores would be better or compete directly with the custom cores. Since Samsung wanted a 2+2+4 design then each CPU is different M5+A76+A55. It isn't all about flat out performance.
miki swordbreaker
miki swordbreaker Рік тому
Sad why not put all 4 big cores using A77(2x custom and 2x A77)..like Qualcomm..all were A77 in its big cores..
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
The A76 is the middle core in the Exynos 990, don't forget two custom cores.
Nexgen Bong
Nexgen Bong Рік тому
professor maybe in later a dedicated Snapdragon Elite Gaming in-depth video !!😁😁
Digitaldeath 187
Digitaldeath 187 Рік тому
865 Underwhelming
RedDevilus
RedDevilus Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad not enough megapixels it's not over 9000
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Why ?
Vinayak Navada
Vinayak Navada Рік тому
Now people will make fake SoC apps to upgrade your SoC with software to fool people .... :) Like people used to do with ram just download some
Alejandro Castro
Alejandro Castro Рік тому
Is it possible to make comparition of Exynoss 990 vs SD 865? Is there enough information to make a full comparition?
SpecialWeek
SpecialWeek Рік тому
I was thinking they were going to add the imagine gpu into it I want my 4k @60 fps and mpre than 5 minutes of it
SpecialWeek
SpecialWeek Рік тому
@Gary Explains i was thinking in the wrong way,,, thanks ..
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@brent james Mendez no i think
brent james Mendez
brent james Mendez Рік тому
Mediatek maybe
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Why would Qualcomm abandon its own GPU for another one?
B Floyd
B Floyd Рік тому
Qualcomm: We Can support 8k 30, 4k120👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Google: Pixel can only shoot 4k30 with 64gb Storage! 😩😩😩.......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sidi Klei
Sidi Klei Рік тому
Pixel 3xl😔
B Floyd
B Floyd Рік тому
@Allanrpsx guess it went over ur head. but to help u it's a jab a google. Ur welcome👍🏽
Allanrpsx
Allanrpsx Рік тому
@B Floyd yeah that was a dumb joke
B Floyd
B Floyd Рік тому
My mistake, but its a joke
Soumilak Jana
Soumilak Jana Рік тому
@Dalast1 Woke I think u meant 4k 120? Am I right?
mervstar
mervstar Рік тому
At 5:44 it's said that it support a display refresh rate of 144MHz....WOWOWOWOW!!! Here I am being impressed at 120Hz refresh rates.
Bjay AwesomeBlackDude
Bjay AwesomeBlackDude Рік тому
@Gary Explains 7:14 so this kinda explain why the LG V60 5G phone needs four mini mics? 🤪
Anurag Baundwal
Anurag Baundwal Рік тому
LOL
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
Yeah, my bad, obviously I meant 144Hz
Kadir Taser
Kadir Taser Рік тому
This will be a big upgrade for me to jump from the 835 to 865, I use the LG V30 currently so this certainly be handy for if I want to do gaming on my new phone that is coming soon. Plus LPDDR5 and some of the other little things that will make it handy to play and do so much more than before. My V30 with 835 lasted long enough so that beast needs to rest. I wonder how that jump will be...
Kadir Taser
Kadir Taser Рік тому
Bora Siman I’ll certainly be waiting for that beauty since it will be far more superior with its higher refresh rated screen and much faster memory inside and its quad dac that’ll come in absolutely handy for listening to music or watching movies etc, loving the OLED panels that LG makes, when you think Samsung’s are good but in general the masters behind a very well calibrated OLED panel as to be with the LG’s BOE is also good to since they’ve been into the manufacturing of monitors and phone screens for quite sometime. Anyway let’s see what LG has to offer cause I will grab it
Kadir Taser
Kadir Taser Рік тому
Alexander George I feel you bro, that’ll be a massive jump to the newest architecture, on my desktop I am still at i7 920, not the best but it still runs.
Alexander George
Alexander George Рік тому
Man, I have 820. Haha lol
Bora Siman
Bora Siman Рік тому
Just wait for lg v60 and im so excited about lg on 2020 I'm gonna expect a new whole other level features because of the 865 things cam be possible
Speak out and remove all doubt!
Speak out and remove all doubt! Рік тому
Another great video Gary and I appreciate the turn around needs to be quick on these videos so you can't check everything but I would just like to clarify the manufacturing node being used is different from 855. The 855 used TSMC's N7 node whereas the 865 is going to use N7P (same as the A13). I'm a little disappointed they didn't use the N7+ like Huawei's Hisilicon Kirin 990 but maybe yeilds aren't quite there yet although we will see benefit from N7P over the plain N7. TSMC’s N7P is similar to the N7 but it's optimisations allow it to either boost performance by 7% at the same power, or lower power consumption by 10% at the same clocks.
Speak out and remove all doubt!
Speak out and remove all doubt! Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad Again very difficult to say as we are not really sure how much has been added but we do know the modems have been taken out. But because they still look roughly the same size, still use the same transistor density and only increased cache by 2mb I would estimate at around 7 billion.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Speak out and remove all doubt! ok if you can guess what the billion of the transistors every block of the silicon has in sd 865 ? Becoz Qualcomm doesn't saying about how much the billion of the transistors operation
Speak out and remove all doubt!
Speak out and remove all doubt! Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad It's actually not easy to tell as no one makes the same chip on both for a direct comparison. The reality is there would be very little in it between the two companies. Some say that Samsung's gates might leak a little more and possibly yields are better at TSMC which is maybe why TSMC has more customers than Samsung right now but Sammy has some very ambitions plans to move to a 3nm All Gate Array set up in 2021 which in theory will be better than TSMC's 5nm but I personally would take this with a pinch of salt and believe it when i see it.
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
@Speak out and remove all doubt! what about the technology samsung use euv while other tsmc does this make a big diff ?
Speak out and remove all doubt!
Speak out and remove all doubt! Рік тому
@Wan Maziah Ahmad There isn't a massive difference from N7 to N7P, it's mainly front-end-of-line (FEOL) and middle-end-of-line (MOL) optimisations which allows higher clocks and lower power. Switching to N7+ is quite a difference, in a nut shell it uses a much sharper laser to make the chips this allows chips to either be much smaller or much more complex in the same area and thus increase performance by having more cores or cache etc. The power is also reduced by around the 10% mark. The major next step is N5P, this is pretty much ready from TSMCs point of view so its just getting chips designed for it. Apple's A14 will almost certainly be first to use it next year. This will offer a big leap in performance and/or power reduction.
Sr. D
Sr. D Рік тому
My Snapdragon 855 it's already more powerful than a PS3 era console, seriously, Grid Autosport looks better than in PS3 or 360
SpecialWeek
SpecialWeek Рік тому
Are you sure?
Cee Dee Cee Bee
Cee Dee Cee Bee Рік тому
Xiaomi is always first when it comes to Qualcomm chipsets. Why is that so?
Friends on demand
Friends on demand Рік тому
Because Xiaomi is boss
King Marco Louis III
King Marco Louis III Рік тому
Probably because they make like 50+ devices
Ashish Patel
Ashish Patel Рік тому
This is an awesome update. But I'm not a fan of the ai Spyware.
D R
D R Рік тому
They should have kept 4k@960fps instead of unlimited time.
Ed Fort
Ed Fort Рік тому
They need to have it in the first place before they could keep it. I would be more interested in 1080p@240fps real time recording and support for 240Hz FHD displays to match.
Marauder in Chief
Marauder in Chief Рік тому
I think, Gary, that if Qualcomm , ARM and Google maybe get into some sort of conjoint flagship design, structuring , planning and manufacturing SoCs , Apple would probably, be hit harder than it has ever been in the past, which might just lead to anything. There are despite, all the hoopla, some select niches where Apple is just not competitive, such as 5g , or Imaging software - took them over 2 years to put out a camera that could equal Google's software and first night mode, display has now, for some time been their Achilles heel, especially when it comes to their affordable products : and some where they are capable but would have to cede some authority, hence reluctant. Arm designs with one particular target, one prime goal in mind, Qualcomm's expertise and the Google engineering teams can rode roughshod over, any competition.
Jaiswal Siddharth
Jaiswal Siddharth Рік тому
Hi what does 7 nm chip mean. Is it because it's 7nm thin or other reason. Please EXPLAIN
Silver
Silver Рік тому
In plain english, It means major improvments in power consumption and cpu/gpu performence with the same or lower price range.
Suraj Loharia
Suraj Loharia Рік тому
Difference between each transistor is 7 nano meter
Imperator23
Imperator23 Рік тому
The 'new' always listening feature sounds like the same wich the Apple A9 from 2015 can handle 🤔
Imperator23
Imperator23 Рік тому
Nostalgic inquisitor Lol, please say this to my Galaxy Note 8 again
ᴡᴏʀᴛʜʟᴇꜱꜱ ʙᴏʏ 69
ᴡᴏʀᴛʜʟᴇꜱꜱ ʙᴏʏ 69 Рік тому
Are u living in a shithole for a year??? What's apple?(no offense)
Manthaar Janyaro
Manthaar Janyaro Рік тому
iPhone support HW+ decoder (and not HW decoder) from 2017 not from 2015...
Nostalgic Inquisitor
Nostalgic Inquisitor Рік тому
AHH look we found an isheep
Zon De lara
Zon De lara Рік тому
Looks like power wise, the MediaTek Dimensity is going to be head to head to SD 865 since MediaTek scored being faster than 855+ in their latest chipset.
Zon De lara
Zon De lara Рік тому
@Imran Mahmud edited
Damiel Reyes
Damiel Reyes Рік тому
@Imran Mahmud i think it's typo error
Imran Mahmud
Imran Mahmud Рік тому
Did you mean 865?
Imran Mahmud
Imran Mahmud Рік тому
There is no Snapdragon 965
Zon De lara
Zon De lara Рік тому
The recent MediaTek chipset is much more exciting than this. I hope that will be used to future flagships even in Chinese manufacturers, I won't mind.
Antwnhs
Antwnhs Рік тому
I think Adreno 650 gpu is better than A13 Bionic gpu 4 cores
king yogesh
king yogesh Рік тому
Amal Mathew ya that’s why along with speed test g is also gave an example of geek bench 5 compute score which is purely a synthetic benchmark in that also both the A12 and A13 gpu win quiet easily the A13 by a long long shot
Amal
Amal Рік тому
@king yogesh in real world the A13 is powering 820p and 1152p screens, while SD865 is powering 1440p device.
king yogesh
king yogesh Рік тому
Amal Mathew no it’s not in geek bench 5 compute(gpu) score even the A12 beats s855 gpu and so does in speed test g Qualcomm manufactures potato socs it’s not even funny 🥺
Amal
Amal Рік тому
Theoretically Adreno 640 from SD855 is powerfull than the GPU in A13 Bionic when comparing their GFLOP's and supported screen refresh rates. But in real world the games for iOS is more optimized than android due to defragmentation.
Mario Awe
Mario Awe Рік тому
Wow, 144 MEGA Hz displays!
En Force
En Force Рік тому
😂
Karmanyaah Malhotra
Karmanyaah Malhotra Рік тому
At least the audio doesn't go to the internet with this
nitro361
nitro361 Рік тому
And why it can't?
Christopher Jordan
Christopher Jordan Рік тому
Hey Gary, you're amazing man. Love your work. I hope you've read about Jesus. And, believe in him. Cause, I would really really love to spend time with you in heaven, where you can explain heaven tech. to me.
Avarosa
Avarosa Рік тому
Meh, not as big of a leap in performance.
Damiel Reyes
Damiel Reyes Рік тому
They're focusing on improving their gpu performance
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Elite gaming is a big leap performance especially in gaming area so yeah !!! Is not about the cpu , gpu then ohhh we can really see the big leap jump performance there lol
Kev Barnes
Kev Barnes Рік тому
Insightful, Gary. Looking forward to the follow on videos.
Mizan Faruq
Mizan Faruq Рік тому
Kirin didn't use CORTEX A77. They told A77 may consume more battery than A76 and, yeah, they also told that A76 with 7nm is enough for this generation.
Mizan Faruq
Mizan Faruq Рік тому
@Gary Explains I don't know anything about their marketing. But as far as I know, before ARM releasing A77 Huawei got banned, you know, so they can't use A77. Those excuses were just little diversion.
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
And you believe Huawei marketing! Interesting!
Anas Abaalkhail
Anas Abaalkhail Рік тому
so basically 865 is a disappointment better to wait for the 875 5nm
MT MT
MT MT Рік тому
For a gamer yeah maybe for all the other stuff no it's great
Wan Maziah Ahmad
Wan Maziah Ahmad Рік тому
Some people think their not better upgrade lol
Mab 366
Mab 366 Рік тому
chris martin wait wut? No 865 was a great upgrade
Total GAMIX
Total GAMIX Рік тому
Are you crazy?
Frostie-Flake
Frostie-Flake Рік тому
The reason the modem is separate is both as you explained, but also because THEY HAVE TO MEET APPLE’S NEEDS since they will use the new A series chips.
Gary Explains
Gary Explains Рік тому
If it was about Apples needs then Qualcomm could do both, it always has had external modems available for clients like Apple.
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