Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review - Finally Good Value?
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Video Index
00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
00:23 - Ad Spot
01:21 - RTX 4070 Super Specs
03:04 - Test System Specs
03:32 - A Plague Tale: Requiem
04:05 - Resident Evil 4
04:41 - Cyberpunk 2077
05:17 - Hogwarts Legacy
05:58 - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
06:34 - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
07:10 - The Last of Us Part I
07:49 - Dying Light 2 Stay Human [DX11]
08:29 - Starfield
08:55 - Alan Wake 2
09:19 - Watch Dogs: Legion
09:45 - Hitman 3
10:19 - 1080p Average [Rasterization]
10:37 - 1440p Average [Rasterization]
10:58 - 4K Average [Rasterization]
11:26 - A Plague Tale: Requiem [RT]
12:03 - Resident Evil 4 [RT]
12:30 - Cyberpunk 2077 [RT]
12:53 - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered [RT]
13:32 - Fortnite [RT]
13:59 - Star Wars Jedi: Survivor [RT]
14:22 - 1080p Average [RT]
14:40 - 1440p Average [RT]
14:50 - 4K Average [RT]
15:10 - Power Usage
15:38 - Cost Per Frame [MSRP]
16:41 - Cost Per Frame [Newegg]
17:34 - Cooling Performance [Nvidia FE Model]
18:22 - Cooling Performance [Asus Dual]
19:43 - Cooling Performance [Gigabyte Eagle OC]
21:11 - Final Thoughts
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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review
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@sdtunstall 3 місяці тому
Great to see we've been conditioned to accept 600 for a mid range card. £300 in 2014 for a 970 is £395 in 2024. Loving it...
@brownie43212 3 місяці тому
Honestly I think some level of price increase just beyond 'inflation' should have been expected and is justified, but a literal 100% markup is fucked. The features, capability of the 4070S is sooooo much far and above that of the 970/1070/2070 GPUs. Realistically the 70 series should have been anchored at $500usd, but a lack of 16GB VRAM is a killer if you're thinking of holding this card for 4-5 years. Just like the 4080S with it's measly 16GB on a $1000 card.....
@lamentistriangle281 3 місяці тому
Silicon die also increased in size for L2 cash, RT cores, AI accelerator cores... Though prices are still a bit high and nvidia now upsells lower tier products: eg. 4070 ti should be the Real 4070 as it is the one competing with last gen flagship 3090/ ti. and regular 4070 should've been branded as 4060 because it performs similar to RTX 3080
@chriswright8074 3 місяці тому
Dude let it go times change and you can definitely thank the ones who buys things at these prices no problem that's why it ain't a problem to the makers of the program
@RafitoOoO 3 місяці тому
@@brownie43212 A part of it is inflation, a part of it is greed for sure, but you can't really compare the price of the silicon between a 970 and a 4070 tbf.
@kamikazilucas 3 місяці тому
rich poor divide is what caused it, nvidia dont care about poor people they just want to sell to the rich
@dcarpenter85 3 місяці тому
16gb really needs to be the standard for anything xx70 series and above. It's absolutely ridiculous to pay over 600 dollars or even 800 in the case for the Ti and be held back with 12gb with a 192 bit bus.
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
Next year... 5070 with 192 bit bus using 3gb memory modules and 18Gb or vram... Only $999! 🤣 The more you buy, the more you save!
@slickysan 3 місяці тому
Held back? Lol.
@claysmurthwaite2386 3 місяці тому
@slickysan yes held back. Quite a few games are so close to 12gb at 1440 now. In a year u will have to lower graphics, that is holding back a card.. pretty simple
@Grimmwoldds 3 місяці тому
They won't sell you what you want as a consumer because that would cut into their professional/datacenter card sales.
@syncmonism 3 місяці тому
@@Grimmwoldds That makes sense, though I definitely don't think it's the only reason. One issue was just that an additional 4GB of vram wouldn't have meaningfully helped the 4070's benchmark scores in reviews at the launch of the card, or even for the first year or so after release, and I think they also reasoned that because of DLSS, the card doesn't need as much vram. Obviously it's also about cost/ margins, and it also seems likely that they don't care about making the cards more future proof for games released more than two years after the card is first released, but it's those 3rd to 6th years where the extra vram is most likely to come in handy for higher quality textures and whatnot.
@MrDvneil 3 місяці тому
really appreciate the sound and temp test of the different brands. take care of yourself, awesome job as always.
@Frozoken 3 місяці тому
Gotta love how the $600 usd 4070 has the same msrp in Australia as the $700 usd 3080 10gb despite our exchange rates actually being slightly better now compared to back then.
@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 3 місяці тому
Same thing in Europe. Here these GPUs make no sense, as they are already overpriced.
@prenti1205 3 місяці тому
4070 is 700-760 usd in Europe
@ksysiu_dominator 3 місяці тому
@@prenti1205 not if you buy from newegg you can get it for 550 usd
@erikhansen5326 3 місяці тому
@@prenti1205 i think this is the real reason AMD sales are better in EU then in US
@joshpearson4256 3 місяці тому
That, and the performance of the 4070 Super is almost same performance as the 4 year old 3080
@jackncoke171 3 місяці тому
It would've been a good value a year ago for 500$, it's pretty much the same value as when the 4070 launched because so much time has passed.
@tilapiadave3234 3 місяці тому
Latest Mercedes would have been good value at $1.50 ,,,, DAFT points both
@Grimmwoldds 3 місяці тому
@@tilapiadave3234 Not really daft. NVidia has shit the bed for years now in terms of value. They simply don't value the gamer market, Jensen lying doesn't change that. They loved miners. Now they love AI. They demand their arm and leg.
@jackncoke171 3 місяці тому
@@tilapiadave3234Nice try, Jensen
@tilapiadave3234 3 місяці тому
@@jackncoke171 nice try trans Lisa Su
@Tential1 3 місяці тому
@@tilapiadave3234it's not. You have to account for inflation. So it is the same value. 500 back then is 600 today. The stock market was up 25% last year. It's why I just buy Nvidia stock instead of the gpu. Way better returns. An Nvidia gpu is fun for today. Nvidia stock is fun forever.
@SoundSelector 3 місяці тому
This retails 750€ in my country. There is no freaking way i would pay that money for 12gigs of Vram
@Doomsday_zzz 3 місяці тому
866 $ ))) and this is the cheapest
@yousirsuck4248 3 місяці тому
874 USD msrp in Denmark....
@masterluckyluke 3 місяці тому
In Germany it's 650€. What country are you in?
@axelgorris9530 3 місяці тому
In Belgium an the Netherlands they believe they can charge €999 for this
@ScrayaZ 3 місяці тому
@@axelgorris9530 then just get it elsewhere, caseking from germany sends out to belgium and netherlands and 20 other countries, and the 4070S costs 659€ including tax here. 15€ of transportation fee and ur good to go
@ipotato95 3 місяці тому
Thank you for the reviews! Very much interested in the super series but I won’t let myself get excited until I watch your benchmarks
@jaykay9975 3 місяці тому
In Hogwarts Legacy at 4K it's not the 12GB frame buffer that is limiting performance on the 4070 Class GPUs, just look at the 4060 Ti 8GB vs 4060 Ti 16GB results. It's obviously the memory bandwidth that is keeping all the 4070 class GPUs so close together as the memory subsystem is identical on all 3 variants
@OCX600RR 3 місяці тому
I thought the same. Even the 3080 10GB performed better in that test, especially at the 1% lows
@mirage8753 3 місяці тому
yes. you can see it often on 4000 series cards with lower bus speed but higher l2 cache. amd had it with 6000 series release
@MGsubbie 3 місяці тому
But the 3080 10G has far greater memory bandwidth and is still really close.
@brownie43212 3 місяці тому
@@MGsubbie The 3080 is a weaker card though mate. Not rocket science.
@thng670 3 місяці тому
Yea a lot of times, in certain games, the GPUs like to reserve/allocate as much VRAM as possible just in case but don't actually fully utilize them all. People are worried for nothing and youtubers make it seem much worse than it is. Sure, having more VRAM is better but 12 is still pretty good in 2024. If you are not a professional who actually need as much VRAM as possible, then 12gb is still fine for gaming at 1440p and even 4k (if the gpu has enough raw power ) ; 16gb is optimal but having 16gb without actual horsepower is a little bit of a waste, unless you also need to do professional work on a very tight budget. Heck just a couple of years ago, most hardcore gamers were thrilled to hit a steady 60fps in games, the golden number lol Consoles play around 30fps-45fps most of the time.
@191desperado 3 місяці тому
Came for the 4070 Super review. Stayed to hear Steve say SUPA a few dozen times ❤
@unheard5982 3 місяці тому
also 18:22 Asus "DJUO" , "DJUO" BIOS , "DJUO" 8-pin
@dvnamis_actual 3 місяці тому
Hey Steve here's some change to buy some Strepsils. Great review as always, really come to appreciate the comprehensive test results and hard work you guys put into these things.
@Thejacketof-huang 3 місяці тому
You had donated your money to trash fanboys AMTrash channel 😔
@Sekir80 3 місяці тому
@@Thejacketof-huang I'm sorry, what are you trying to communicate here?
@SilverforceX 3 місяці тому
Congrats on 1M+ subs! You guys have gone a long way.
@reehyss 3 місяці тому
man my reference 6800xt is still such a beast for more than a 3 year old card what a great card from AMD
@androidx99 3 місяці тому
Damn right!
@Stukes 3 місяці тому
Yeah, that was my take-away from the review as well. The 6800xt was (and is) a great card, and this generation is "meh" at best.
@Davinmk 3 місяці тому
@@Stukesthe 3080 tho
@verycalmgamer4090 3 місяці тому
my friend has had countless problems with that card so yeah nah.... anecdotal evidence vs anecdotal evidence
@Yxalitis 3 місяці тому
@@verycalmgamer4090 "my friend has had countless problems with that card" could be said about any card, form any vendor, ever made, at any time.,
@Spreadie 3 місяці тому
Pity you didn't inlcude the 3090 to test Nvidia's own marketing claims that the 4070S beats the 3090.
@stephonhines6554 3 місяці тому
It doesn't 😂
@DanNBM1 3 місяці тому
Just look at the RTX 3080 10GB! Its almost identical in performance.
@Spreadie 3 місяці тому
@@DanNBM1 I was more interested in how the larger frame buffer performed in comparison in the more memory intensive titles
@mikehudgins8545 3 місяці тому
@@DanNBM1 I’m surprised NVIDIA didn’t get called out more for that in these reviews. My launch 3080 was about the same price and very close performance wise.
@dhaumya23gango75 3 місяці тому
@@DanNBM1 Not "almost identical " as going by the 1440p average which is the intended resolution for this card, the 4070 super leads the 3080 10gb by ~12 percent and on par with the 3090. Only at 4k, the performance of the 4070 super falls between the 3080 and the 3090.
@syncmonism 3 місяці тому
The 12GB vram capacity is likely to affect the longevity of the card, and there's only about a year before the next generation cards come out, and apparently less than a year before Intel releases its new cards. Vram costs these big companies less than $4 per gigabyte, and we've obviously seen a bunch of much cheaper cards with 16GB. Considering that Intel already has the cheapest 16GB card on the market, it seems reasonable to expect them to put 16GB on at least one new card which should be able to compete with the likes of the 7800 XT and the RTX 4070 / 4070S. 600 USD was already a lot to pay for a graphics card with 12GB of vram in 2023, and now it's 2024.
@Davinmk 3 місяці тому
source on the vram cost?
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
Your ram quote is wrong. _Slow_ gddr6 is around $4-$5/gb, but not gddr6x. It's around $7-$8 as well as ram prices have increased since last year. The problem is they didn't change the memory subsystem so it wouldn't just be a $30 increase to give you 16gb. It would need a redesigned die. This is why the 4070ti super is moving to the 4080's die to give you 16gb of gddr6x.
@drago939393 3 місяці тому
I just Intel reads the room and tries to offer an excellent value ~$300 card to help gobble up market share.
@brojackedh.1512 3 місяці тому
I'm completely ignorant on the economics of adding RAM to GPUs, expect for the part where I paid for my 7000 series AMD. Any good places to start reading, especially on the part where they need to redesign a die to get more RAM in? I've seen some people soldering more RAM onto a GPU and the result is just unworkable jank @@zodwraith5745
@HoldinContempt 3 місяці тому
Hold out for intel. The ARC drivers have seen massive improvements and all signs point to Intel fabbing their new generation on TSMC's 5/4nm node that the RTX 4000 Series is made on. Based on synthetics of the new intel cores tested in their iGPU's people are estimating close to RTX 4080 performance out of a very small and efficient GPU die on TSMC. The only Unknown is whether or not they will use GDDR7. If its a GDDR7 card they will have 24gb of VRAM and more bandwidth than the RTX 4090 which means the Performance might even pass the 4080 by quite a bit at 4K just due to the massive bandwidth advantage. Or they can cut the GDDR7 down to 192-bit with 18gb of VRAM and give you identical or slightly better performance than a 4080 for very cheap. This year the only thing anyone should be doing is waiting for intel.
@tomallan5000 3 місяці тому
I am going to have to pass on 12 GB cards that are $600. I am already hitting 12 Gb vram usage in areas of games I play w/o raytracing. If it had 16GB of vram I probably scoop it up but I can’t justify spending that much for a card already obsolete when it comes to vram and my performance absolutely tanks hard when vram is overrun.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
esports players aren't VRAM limited and will gladly get this card
@daniil3815 3 місяці тому
I have no idea what games you play that maximize 12gb without ray tracing. Also do you play at native 4k without dlss? Overall, I don’t think 4070s is 4k card, it’s definitely capable with compromises, but it’s really 2k card.
@androidx99 3 місяці тому
I totally agree, I can't buy a card with less than 16GB of VRAM anymore, I'm very interested to see how the 4070TI Super 16GB does in Benchmarks. If it comes anywhere near the 4080 for $799 I'm going to be very excited
@DavidFregoli 3 місяці тому
what games? what areas? what settings? elaborate
@chacharealsmooth941 3 місяці тому
@@GewelReal I don't see how that's relevant to ordinary people, aka most of us.
@Genshin_HC 3 місяці тому
Nice video as always! Might I suggest putting the noise/temp comparisons in chart form at the end? I found myself skipping back and forth to compare the temps/noise of the various models.
@attilad.8142 3 місяці тому
Glad to see that $$$/Performance is improving, although still a far way off the good old times.
@MaggotCZ 3 місяці тому
there is nothing like "old times". Its not GPU pricing only thing lmao.
@daniil3815 3 місяці тому
Good old times will never come back, stop dreaming
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
We're getting like 10% more performance than a 3080(even less at 4k!) for $100 less after more than THREE YEARS. We've gone from 'despicable' pricing and value to just 'terrible'. There's nothing to cheer for here.
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
@@MaggotCZ Bullshit. CPU pricing is in a great place, for instance. We're just getting bent over a barrel with GPU's.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
@@maynardburgerthen don't buy 🤷
@DavidFregoli 3 місяці тому
Avatar has always-on RT, it should be in the RT section of the video
@warslayr7341 3 місяці тому
Glad you are doing better.Thanks for the hard work. appreciate it
@FATBOY_. 3 місяці тому
Thanks Steve for this awesome review. 🙂
@Scottland652 3 місяці тому
Man really makes the used 3080 I bought for under $300 look even better!
@oDannyR 3 місяці тому
Legends ❤️ thank you so much for all your hard work
@Bazsy92 3 місяці тому
Hi Steve! You are misusing the term "Junction temperature" at 17:50 . Usually hot spot and junction both means maximum temperature inside a chip, and the simple GPU temperature could be called average or edge temp.
@Nos2113 3 місяці тому
Makes me feel pretty good about the 7900xt I snagged for $620
@ghostriderx916 3 місяці тому
Open box?
@Nos2113 3 місяці тому
@@ghostriderx916 Yeah, open box, not new. Also a reference card.
@jondasek 3 місяці тому
Wow, that's a great deal, enjoy the VRAM of 3070 and 4070 combined :D
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 3 місяці тому
Now that's a Super deal
@Thejacketof-huang 3 місяці тому
Ahahahhahahahahahaha with your lovely trashdeon never get cold in your house 💥🔥 😂 🎪
@robbieshand6139 2 місяці тому
I bought one of these last weekend. Never spent so much on a card before. Kind of an impulse buy but I have a bonus coming so I figured, why the hell not? The difference between my previous RTX 3060 and this card is really quite staggering. The 3060 stuttered quite a bit with ray tracing in Witcher 3, now its buttery smooth even with quality settings and hairworks turned on. Feels like I finally have something truly modern, which is nice because I know it won't last lol
@scope-me2604 2 місяці тому
Very good too and save more many for an upgrade in 3-4 years even more bc I doubt games would push it bc they rush making games now days
@Bigbacon 3 місяці тому
all I know watching all this unfold is I'm glad I bought a 4090 back when they were only 1500 bucks.
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
Spending $1500 for a GPU is still crazy. Pretty much any other series, Nvidia would have released a part that performs near enough to a 4090 for way less money. But they've gotten extremely greedy, and thanks to people like you it's working out great for them. Not so much for us.
@DavidFregoli 3 місяці тому
holy crap yes. best day 1 purchase ever
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
@@maynardburgerkeep crying
@yungfisherman4 3 місяці тому
4090 is the best deal in computing. lmao at all the dumbasses that cry about its price, 1.5 years later, nothing else even came close to touching it
@Bigbacon 3 місяці тому
@@maynardburger Sadly you gotta pay to play....you also need to think of the future when you spend that money on the card. I don't expect to upgrade it any time soon. It will perform very well for many years to come unlike those spending for lesser cards right now. Hell look at the 10gb 3080, its pretty DOA now because 10gb of ram is becoming a limiting factor. those cards are only like what 2 years old??
@derfahnder88 3 місяці тому
Thanks for the review, wish you a speedy recovery!
@perlichtman1562 3 місяці тому
Sorry to hear that you’ve been sick. I hope you feel better soon.
@cxngo8124 3 місяці тому
The 4070 super is exactly what the 4070 should have been at launch.
@marrow94 3 місяці тому
Not at all, it's just a slightly faster 3080. 4070 should have been 4070 Ti, trading blows with the 3080 Ti and 3090.
@Fafnir33 3 місяці тому
And 4070 should've been 4060 ti instead
@jermainesabajo7225 3 місяці тому
No !!
@mr.electronx9036 3 місяці тому
no. 4070 should be 256bit card with 16gb vram
@elmariachi5133 3 місяці тому
No, it's what should have become a 4050ti or 4060 at best, for half the price.
@DM72513 3 місяці тому
That 6950XT I just picked up for $549.99 at Micro Center for somebody’s build sure seems like a hell of a deal. Insane price/performance with the 7800X3D/Gigabyte Gaming X B650/32GB G.Skill DDR5 6000 $500 Bundle. Hell of a pairing for $1,049.99.
@bigbadslimee 3 місяці тому
terrible power efficiency and RT performance, you should have waited
@biansanity 3 місяці тому
@@bigbadslimeeif I have $1200 pc on my desk I won't care about power usage at all.
@androidx99 3 місяці тому
Efficiency means fuck all to 95% of people. Saving $20 a year versus saving hundreds of dollars now and getting great performance @@bigbadslimee
@tomstech4390 3 місяці тому
@@bigbadslimee Every PC today has worse efficiency compared to the future, only idiots wait forever but no amount of waiting will grow you another 33% more Vram.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
@@biansanityand that's how we have global warming. thanks!
@kilnerdyne 3 місяці тому
Great job again Steve cheers
@plohish1337 3 місяці тому
congrats with 1m subs! great video as always, also 4070 super is good value finally 👍
@ckg-CaribbeanKnight 3 місяці тому
RX 6800 XT is in there like a champ. When they were $450 it was deal.
@Angel7black 3 місяці тому
Yeah that brief window when it was $450 vs most of its lifespan when it was above $1200
@DeathComeInPeace 3 місяці тому
got one SH for $350 with 1year and a half warranty. First amg gpu for me, replaced my 2070 super, so far it's been twice the frame gains lol! 5600x CPU
@ckg-CaribbeanKnight 3 місяці тому
@@Angel7black Never buy MSRP. Always hunt for deals. SH Nvidia has great deals too.
@chronometer9931 3 місяці тому
Neither company has "great" deals, they are overpriced @@ckg-CaribbeanKnight
@Galf506 3 місяці тому
Thanks for taking the time and effort to build a proper testing suite, with a test bench on a 7800X3D to make sure the GPUs aren't ever bottlenecked. This is proper top tier work.
@J.D_7 3 місяці тому
Thanks for the review Steve, get well soon.
@phasestar7787 3 місяці тому
Great review, thank you for all your work.
@siliconandsteel 3 місяці тому
Thank you so much for including 2070 Super! Still, if I would have to buy this gen, I wouldn't want to upgrade 8GB VRAM GPU to 12 GB VRAM GPU. And if I couldn't get a budget for 16 GB GPU, I would first consider cheapest 4070 and think hard if I need extra few frames from Super, especially on WQHD or higher.
@justmatt2655 3 місяці тому
I wouldn't only think about vram when upgrading. But if you really want 16gb then best options are 6800xt, 7800xt or 4070 ti super
@AndyViant 3 місяці тому
@@justmatt2655 6950XT is still around. Just saw AU$949 for one which is way better than buying a 6800
@DragonSoul621 Місяць тому
I found a 2070 super in early 2020 for 189dlls at a local best buy and its probably the best price for performance ive found in a while, i even bought a second one for a friend that was still running a 960 on his pc.
@joshuapicarello 3 місяці тому
It's great to see how far the 7900XT has come in these benchmarks. Not long after launch, it was maybe 3% faster on average. Now it's closer to 10-12%, and that's before unlocking the power limit and undervolting. I'm so glad we have proper competition in the market again, as well as competitive pricing. My 7900XT clocks to 2.85Ghz-2.95Ghz, and sits within maybe 5% of the 4080.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
within 5% of 4080? Gimme a number to your dealer man
@Stavroization 3 місяці тому
4070ti super is likely going to match or beat the 7900xt for around the same price. AMD is going to have to cut prices to keep it competitive. They already know that if price/performance is the same, no one is buying AMD.
@wingsuitzero 3 місяці тому
@@GewelRealyeah on average the 7900XT was within 12% or so which still isn’t bad for a GPU that costs over $400 less
@brasiliafc2138 3 місяці тому
@@wingsuitzero wilth oc 7900 xt Can catch UP with 4080 .
@iHaveTheDocuments 3 місяці тому
I payed 700 bucks for mine and it's a beast. 20 gigs vram is insane. It will be many years until that's even close to not enough
@AscendedZombie 3 місяці тому
Excellent review! Thank you for the content
@mexes2178 3 місяці тому
I realy like what you doing withe the Framgen and Dlss fsr. Not inkluding it in every gpu review
@julia_oh 3 місяці тому
I personally liking how you includes the cooling performance for each card in that particular way, instead of just using charts. That gives me more insights of each card behaviour. I know it's hard to do for every cards out there, but if that's possible that would be awesome. If there's too many, using split screen displaying each status from different cards on one screen simultaneously would be easier to compare, maybe three cards at a time. So you can highlight each box for each card while talking about them one by one while it's all running in one screen.
@thesyndrome43 3 місяці тому
I just want to check: are you guys OK to show the AIB partner cards considering the embargo for reviewing them is tomorrow? I know you aren't technically 'reviewing' them, just showing the temperature and noise levels, but I just wanna bring it up so you guys can make the video hidden until tomorrow if you think it might be an issue. Thanks for the review btw, I'm probably gonna pick up a 4070 super tomorrow to finally upgrade my 1070, so this was really helpful to see what framerates I will should expect (I've got the same CPU and similar DDR5-6000 RAM)
@MrMirofl 3 місяці тому
Thank you for the perfectly timed review!
@HFIntegrale 3 місяці тому
Thanks for including the RTX 3080 !!
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 3 місяці тому
I've never been this early for any video lol. Really interested in the 4070Ti Super review since it is the only 70 class product from Nvidia this gen with a 256 bit bus.
@Son37Lumiere 3 місяці тому
It's basically going to be on par with the 7900 XT.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 3 місяці тому
@@Son37Lumiere I feel like it'll be slightly faster. Let's see.
@Son37Lumiere 3 місяці тому
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Techpowerup already lists it as being 2% slower overall than the 7900 XT in their relative performance chart, so essentially on par. Obviously nvidia is much faster at RT but in raster, the 7900 XT is really strong with more vram and bandwidth.
@HEADINMYCLOUDS 3 місяці тому
The all black reference design looks really clean.
@seangandy6756 3 місяці тому
Glad you’re feeling better!
@KurtMcScotsman 3 місяці тому
Thanks for another quality review!
@enthusiasticgmgaming4165 3 місяці тому
I'm happy with my 7800 XT Red Devil. But to be fair, Ray Tracing isn't in enough games that I personally care about to bother using it. Plus the 7800 XT has good performance at 1440p. But i will admit the 4070 Super is more impressive than I thought it would be. But I can't help but feel like this is what the 4070 really should have been when it launched.
@-psycho-0 3 місяці тому
Same here I have the red devil and to be honest the 4070 Super is a bit disappointing but if it was in the market I think I would buy it instead not if I'm saying the 7800xt is bad but for a 40$ more you get a faster card with dlss and good rt i think I'm going to wait 2 more gen than I'll upgrade
@ahmedghorab2379 3 місяці тому
Yeah, but with a 100$ difference, it's not really something to look at yet.
@SpaceRanger187 3 місяці тому
shouldn't have to use Ray Tracing.. GPU prices are a scam
@richshrimp7680 3 місяці тому
Unrelated, but i feel like 7800xt vs 6800xt is an awful gen on gen improvement, and I feel like amd screwed up big time with the 7700xt and 7800xt. Could have shook up the market.
@ahmedghorab2379 3 місяці тому
@richshrimp7680 the 7800 xt vs 6800 is ok. They shot them self with the XT part. The 7700 xt just need to slash a 50$ out of MSRP and it would sell like crazy.
@rcmp09 3 місяці тому
This is sad. At 4k it's pretty much the same as my RTX 3080. Waiting 3 years to get the same performance for $100 less doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Also, I anticipate the 12gb of vram is likely going to be a problem sooner than it took for the 10gb on my 3080.
@Safetytrousers 3 місяці тому
It's not marketed as a 4k card. They're even saying the 4070ti Super can only do some 4k gaming.
@nossy232323 3 місяці тому
Well, I would say this is not really a 4K card. It's a pretty good 1440P card with the only bad thing being the limited amount of VRAM.
@chronometer9931 3 місяці тому
If it's not really a 4K card then It's not really worth the price. Why would you spend that much money and not even get a 4K card out of the deal. @@nossy232323
@UberFren 3 місяці тому
if you're buying a 70 series for 4K than you are buying the wrong card. It does 1440p really well and I doubt see the 12 gigs becoming a issue for a good 4 years tbh at which point I'll be ready to upgrade anyways
@nossy232323 3 місяці тому
@@UberFren I doubt that 12GB will be enough for 1440P native the coming 4 years. Of course you can use DLSS and then you need less VRAM.
@asgermller3441 3 місяці тому
Great review as always 👍
@HistoryNoob 3 місяці тому
Thanks for delivering this video, get well soon!
@cyberwolf575 3 місяці тому
I have a 3080 10gb FTW3, and honestly am happy with how competitive it has stayed this whole time.
@DrearierSpider1 3 місяці тому
Same, I have the Founder's Edition, which I got for $630 with a Best Buy discount 3 years ago. I mean I was insanely lucky, but everyone was supposed to be able to buy one for around $700 and the 40 series is very mediocre when viewed in that light.
@mechanicalmonk2020 3 місяці тому
Alan Wake 2 is the only game that has given me pause. But since pretty much everything else runs great I'm gonna wait until the 5 series
@cyberwolf575 3 місяці тому
Yeah I was able to flash a modded bios onto my card and run it at 450w. So I was able to get a +250 clock and 1,000 on memory and benchmark wise it's actually on par or faster than the 4070 super in these reviews in most of those games. Some games do run much better on the 4 series though, Alan wake 2 being one of them.
@KG-kp3le 3 місяці тому
I got a 3080 12gb for $420 second hand early this year and its honestly perfect for the money
@deljohn 3 місяці тому
Truth!
@neoaliens8635 3 місяці тому
As the time comes, Steve delivers as always! Great review, and a better product in the Ada Lovelace lineup as well!
@unholydonuts 2 місяці тому
Thanks Steve for the review. 192 bit 12GB officially starting at $550 (possibly more outside US market) is still super expensive.
@FoxxFire 3 місяці тому
All data has been updated for this video? All those graphics cards? My goodness that must have taken days or even weeks to do. That is quite incredible, and I as a viewer greatly appreciate the effort.
@sergtrav 3 місяці тому
True RTX4060 Super for 600$, best value ever.
@dhaumya23gango75 3 місяці тому
4060 super matching the 3090, delusional take.
@sergtrav 3 місяці тому
@@dhaumya23gango75Tell it to 1060 or even 2060super.
@Grandmaster_Vic 3 місяці тому
Man I wish my 4070 has the same performance as the Super Variant. The 4070 should have released at $499 and the Super variant.. kinda.. justifies it as it’s in the middle of a 3080 Ti and a 3090 when it comes to performance. Which are both expensive cards especially when they first launched
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
Sell it and get the Super. Super will have much better resell value in the future as well. Worth the swap
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
3080Ti and 3090 were poor value GPU's. Using those as a basis for comparison to justify current prices, especially for a more-than-three-year-old architecture is not a good idea.
@frank.bullitt 3 місяці тому
My 4070 is still great, not worth the upgrade to the 4070S.. The 4070TI Super on the other hand...
@phant0m92 3 місяці тому
Not if you sold your 3080 during the mining boom and bought a 3080ti LTE 😝. Actually made $400 profit@@maynardburger
@Grandmaster_Vic 3 місяці тому
@@GewelReal If I were to upgrade I would rather get the 4070 Ti Super. But currently I am still okay with my 4070. As well as I am trying to save money for a Vacation trip this year anyways 😅
@frshunter 3 місяці тому
Hope you continue to get better!
@ptsg 3 місяці тому
Also these reviews are getting better and better! Can’t wait on the 4080 super reviws when the card comes out. I would be interested in a bigger comparison between AIB cards as I didn’t get a great one for my 2070 super. Though I know these cards aren’t free and definitely not cheap either :)
@Galf506 3 місяці тому
since the 3000 series, the difference between brands is kinda dead as Nvidia made their reference cards too good for the partners to skimp out on theirs. This is part of why EVGA dropped: not because they made bad cards, at all, but because Nvidia was getting so aggressive the already minimal gains for partners were becoming not enough, as Nvidia also banned partners from experimenting. Right now pretty much all brands are properly cooled, you only need to watch out for exotic cards like the 3090 with its backside RAM chips which were missed when designing cooling by some partners.
@ToGrimmToWin 3 місяці тому
@@Galf506 I hope EVGA starts making AMD cards
@ptsg 3 місяці тому
@@Galf506 Ah that's very good to know. I have to temp limit my 2070 super 6 deg lower to prevent the hotspot going over the maximum, causing the fans to spin to 3000 rpm cosplaying a jet engine. hopefully the 4080 super won't have that problem. Though prob a bit louder on average duo to the higher TDP. Might be wrong on that
@Malus1531 3 місяці тому
@@Galf506They cool well enough, but my mid-tier 3080 12GB (EVGA XC3) is notably hotter and louder than my high-end 1080Ti (Asus Strix). 3080 might just be a hotter chip sure, but I wish I had sprung for a model with a beefier cooler.
@Galf506 3 місяці тому
@@Malus1531 I think it's just because the Strix is really overkill cooled, but my Asus TUF OC is very silent too and I just threw +125 core +1000 memory and it took it like a champ
@wiryantirta 3 місяці тому
I suppose we're never getting back that sub-500usd 70-class ever again are we
@dazzlerweb 3 місяці тому
not a chance.
@NostradAlex 3 місяці тому
Nope. And expect prices to go up and up and never down. Ever. This is the midrange card btw.
@santyagobustamante7369 3 місяці тому
Some people will tell you "inflation" like they are expert on economics and then you realize the 400$ 1070 from 2016 should be adjusted for inflation a 507$ card. And Nvidia already priced the 70 class cards at 500$ back in 2018
@emiel255 3 місяці тому
That boat has sailed permanently ever since the 20 series came out
@ThePurplePassage 3 місяці тому
In principle if Intel got their GPU act together further discounts might be possible. But it's not clear intel will even continue to make desktop GPUs and of course their performance and drivers need to get better
@matthewhudson6036 3 місяці тому
Man the outro gets me every time, I want a longer version lol.
@mrandyburns 3 місяці тому
Thanks Steve for a great SUPER update with SUPER voice! Just checked updated UK pricing direct for reference cards including P&P based on 1440 cost per frame 7800xt-£483.78+12.37pso=£5.33/frame 4070S-£579+5.48post=£5.57/frame 4070-£529+5.48post=£6.07/frame ... there I was thinking I'll swap my RX580 Devil for a 4070 to see what Ray is all about and to add some frame gen on flight sim but NOOO ... team green are trying to lure more money out my pocket for the Super! What do I do ... help me Obi-Steve, you're my only hope!!
@sirgurky 3 місяці тому
New camera? The conclusion bit looks very crisp!
@MrAnimescrazy 3 місяці тому
I went with an all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the white phanteks nv7. The pc is a beast and I keep it clean which as a matter of fact I will clean it later this week.
@ZackSNetwork 3 місяці тому
I have an all white build Asus Strix 4090 and a I9 14900k with 96gbs of DDR5 ram. The second system is an all black build with a 7800x3d and a 3080 12gb with 32gbs of DDR5 ram.
@MrAnimescrazy 3 місяці тому
@@ZackSNetwork nice high end builds.
@YAAMW 3 місяці тому
One day, one day UKposts will finally get your channel's name right in the closed captions. 😂😂 Outstanding effort as usual. HUB for the review, GN for the teardown is what I always do for these releases.
@TheXev 3 місяці тому
Hadron Unboxed is still my all time favorite out of all the ones I have seen. 🤣
@minimumoftwo99 3 місяці тому
great review. take care mate
@konstantinlozev2272 3 місяці тому
Isn't Avatar Ultra quality with raytracing automatically toggled on? That would explain the results.
@DwaynedaGamer 3 місяці тому
Yh and I'm pretty sure it was high not ultra they tested.
@rcontrerastaule 3 місяці тому
Too expensive. These gpu prices are sad.
@Lord_of_Dread 3 місяці тому
And that's why retailers have been saying nobody is buying them. The people who are ok with being ripped off already bought their 40 series cards, the rest of us haven't been tempted by the last scam, and aren't going to suddenly fall for this one. Sure, if they come out with a 4090 super, some of the shit-for-brains whales will buy some of those, but the rest of the lineup is DOA. £500-600 is a LOT of money. GPUs depreciate in value rapidly, so the only 'investment' quality is the graphical fidelity/performance/efficiency/VRAM and how long you'll be able to make it last. If ANY of those is already subpar today, it will be even worse in the near future, and you will have pissed away your money only to need to repeat the process not long after. Now that probably sounds fine to the mentally challenged, but the rest of us aren't biting. I could buy a bunch of 4090s if I wanted to, but it's the fucking principle. Fuck nVidia, I'll keep my cash until they come out with a palatable deal. This second hand 1080 will do just fine for now.
@scope-me2604 2 місяці тому
@@Lord_of_Dread brought the 4070 super for my first pc for 1440p is that ok ?
@jarred4005 2 місяці тому
@@scope-me2604 if u can play the games u want and are having fun then ya
@jarred4005 2 місяці тому
@@Lord_of_Dread at least in my area, 4080s and 4090s are always out of stock. microcenter constantly restocking and they've even increased the price of their 4090s.
@lordfenix17 3 місяці тому
I’ve been waiting for this.
@bluebird0222 3 місяці тому
Hope you feel better the coming weeks Steve. Best wishes. Thank you for all your work. Hope that AMD cuts prices or goes back to the drawing table because of the limitations of RDNA architecture. In Europe the cards are more expensive sadly.
@beau-urns 3 місяці тому
Impressive raw performed . Inadequate vram. The 7800xt is nearly matching at high res and that will only get worse for nvidia in the future. But I AM very excited for the 4070ti super. My take: get the 7800xt at this lower price bracket, or save up a little bit and jump to the 4070ti super
@TotallySlapdash 3 місяці тому
My take: basicly as above, but with the proviso of wait out another year if you can. I have no expectations for Battlemage at the high end, but it could lead to more competition in the sub $500 range, and this _should_ be a $350-400 card.
@Roll_the_Bones 3 місяці тому
@beau-urns6243: Absolutely on the nail. 4070 Ti Super will be a cracker, maybe the pick of the whole 4000 series? 4070S is too limited by old architecture & low vram to be a sensible buy for the longer term. 7800XT will OC to a surprising level, if you get a good triple version - great value. RT doesn't really enter the room unless you like to play by yourself, and at low fps, which I don't.
@travistehdog 3 місяці тому
Thank you for the review! I'm hoping to hear good things for the 4070 ti Super as well. I was saving up for the longest time to get a 7900 xt, but now may pick up the 70 ti Super instead.
@anodyneliniment2326 3 місяці тому
Same man, and really does have to bring the 7900xt down to 600-700 usd to be even competitive, seeing how fsr3 fell on deaf ears and isn't all it was made up to be
@marcelosoares7148 3 місяці тому
@@anodyneliniment2326 I think AMD will keep the 7900 XT where it is because it still has the VRAM advantage, although not by much now considering the 16GBs of the 4070Ti Super but i guess we will see.
@rhymingbecktionary 3 місяці тому
Thank you so much for including Alan Wake 2 in your benchmarks.
@Errol246 3 місяці тому
Excited for the 4070 ti SUPER review. I want those 16 gb vram.
@scope-me2604 2 місяці тому
Save up for a better 4k card it’s worth the save and time you wasted
@thomask1424 3 місяці тому
One thig that bears pointing out is the 4070 Super is a 2-slot design whereas the Ti Super will be 3-slot. While some, including myself, might prefer the higher spec'd Ti Super this is an important consideration. After 4 A770 builds last year, I'm amassing parts for an intended Batllemage build but now rumor has it that it will be cut back to 12GB/192 bus. :( Wait to see if this pans out and possibly miss out on a Founder's Edition or just go with the Nvidia now? Of course, I'll kick myself if I get the 4070 Super and then it turns out the rumor is wrong.
@orihelemano1062 3 місяці тому
I've been researching alot as in my opinion 4070 class cards are the sweet spot for mini ITX builds when considering the performance you get for lesser size/heat/power consumption. i found out that there are actually 2 slot 4070 Ti Super cards coming out, specifically most of the offerings from Inno3D. There are also 2.5 slot designs of the Ti Super too from MSI with both dual fan and triple fan designs (Ventus 2x/3x & Gaming Slim/X Slim) and a short length (< 300mm) triple fan 2.5 slot one from Gigabyte (Windforce)
@em.dot.2 3 місяці тому
I think you always set yourself up for disappointment if you're dead-set on a product that hasn't even come out yet, much less been reviewed. I wouldn't hold out for Battlemage, personally.
@intelligentdesignmorty8112 3 місяці тому
@@em.dot.2yes by the time battlemage is out rdna 5 and Blackwell is around the corner
@E6hosting 3 місяці тому
I could be wrong, but the 4070 ti super(stupid name) is a different calibre of card to the 4070 super and the 4070ti it is a much bigger card being that it is a crippled 4080.
@E6hosting 3 місяці тому
I could be wrong, but the 4070 ti super(stupid name) is a different calibre of card to the 4070 super and the 4070ti it is a much bigger card being that it is a crippled 4080.
@generaldane 3 місяці тому
You know looking at those raytracing results the 7900XT is surprisingly close to the 4070ti which if I follow forums posts I'd be convinced it was significantly worse
@DwaynedaGamer 3 місяці тому
Bro it's always like that. Nvidia dudes love to talk about ray tracing is only for Nvidia cards when they are not much better than amds, they require frame generation to have a good experience.
@beamed7770 3 місяці тому
@@DwaynedaGameryeah except nvidia has DLSS which makes raytracing actually playable on cards that aren’t the 4090
@DwaynedaGamer 3 місяці тому
@@beamed7770 exactly my point. Upscalers and frame generation are needed. Only thing AMD is lacking is frame generation to have a good experience with heavy ray tracing games. Dlss might be better than fsr, but people act as if there aren't any alternative. In some games xess go blow for blow with dlss.
@arbernuka3679 3 місяці тому
it constantly beat 4070ti in the a$$, now im sure 4070ti super will not surpass it, its going to be on par with 7900xt
@Son37Lumiere 3 місяці тому
@@beamed7770 FSR gives the same performance increase as dlss, dlss just offers slightly better image quality. It's not a huge difference.
@christopherhadsell9049 3 місяці тому
Sad to hear you had the flu. Hope you get to feel better!
@NotMe-gt6nj 3 місяці тому
Would have liked to have seen GPU Memory usage for in-game testing like you did for the 7800XT review. Love your content, gonna go for the 7800XT. 12GB of VRAM is just not it even if it manages do more with less. If it were $450 I'd probably buy it over the 7800XT though
@danieltoth9742 3 місяці тому
This just seems like a classic "3 steps forward, 1 step back" move from Nvidia. They are still selling what's basically a 60 Ti at a 50% price hike compared to previous gen -- and that's assuming the MSRP of 600 stays true. I'm not impressed, but maybe I'm just too jaded at this point.
@eclypse1259 3 місяці тому
Can’t wait for the ti Super review. It should be a pretty impressive boost over the std ti model.
@DRANE_YT 3 місяці тому
this is just a beautiful review. BEAUTIFUL! The points made, especially during the cost per frame section, the sections covered, the variety of cards included, and the graphics used to review the new 4070 Super was superb and highly thoughtful, will be back for more and now subscribed.
@Ambiguousss 3 місяці тому
Thank you for including Alan Wake 2 in the benchmarks!!
@matheussantos9367 3 місяці тому
This actually made me a bit more optimistic about the 4070 ti super. I was aiming for a 7900xt to finish up my 7800x3d build, but depending on how things go next week, I might reconsider
@GloriousStone 3 місяці тому
unless you are going for native 4k(more vram), there is no point in getting the 7900. 4070 ti super is gonna be stronger even in raster, eat less power and have DLSS, FG, reflex, nvenc etc at similar pricepoint
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
Yeah, 7900XT is gonna have to drop to 650$
@tringuyen7519 3 місяці тому
@@GloriousStoneNvidia is limiting supply of the 4070Ti Super to raise the street price above $900. Is 4070Ti Super = 7900XTX? You would have to like RT & DLSS a lot.😂
@androidx99 3 місяці тому
I'm also really exicted for the 4070TI Super, a 16GB Nvdia 4000 Series Card for $799? Absolute yes for me. I can buy anything under 16GB anymore seeing the VRAM limitations even at 1440p with 12 GBs.
@ZackSNetwork 3 місяці тому
No point in going AMD know.
@AncientGameplays 3 місяці тому
Guys, just to state here that the 6950XT can't get overclocked that much over stock usually, while the 7800XT can get a nice uplift. tweak vs tweak the 7800XT is very close to the 6950XT in most recent games (just to state). As for the 4070 Super, IF they get close to MSRP they'll sell like hotcakes, as they're quite faster than the 7800XT
@DM72513 3 місяці тому
The 6950XT can be bought for $549.99 in the U.S. though so the 7800 XT is irrelevant until they cut the price more.
@baghlani92 3 місяці тому
Right now, 7800xt in my country costs $800 USD, very unusual. I'm from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
@Logical 3 місяці тому
Nice uplift is probably the standard max 5% depending on your exact model?
@bronsondixon4747 3 місяці тому
Cope.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
@@DM72513nah the 6950XT is irrelevant. 5% extra perf for over 100W extra (and 7800XT is not known for efficiency either)
@whismerhillgaming 3 місяці тому
Best wishes for your health & 2024 & for tim too
@kon0212 2 місяці тому
Were u using the founders edition for these benchmarks? Or the asus dual/gigabyte 4070 super?
@Roll_the_Bones 3 місяці тому
For enthusiasts, the 7800XT will OC up to 4070S level for raster. Although at the cost of additional power consumption, but still not excessively.
@Dempig 3 місяці тому
I dont get why people say this, because it insinuates that you cant just overclock the other card as well
@nicane-9966 3 місяці тому
to even higher, amd card overclocks more than the nvidia counterpart ( at least according to techpower up the 4070 s can get up to 8% extra performance only, meanwhile the 7800 xt can squize up to 15%).... and is important because is still 100dls cheaper and you can get same raster performance (or better) with 16gb while paying less, both overclocked to max get same performance in timsespy. 69/70fps wich is the exact same performance 4070ti stock gets, is it worth it? IDK.
@Hardworkpays209 3 місяці тому
@@Dempigthe 70 series cards don’t over clock well since their memory bus is limited. Basically are as fast as they will get out of the box.
@iequalsnoob 3 місяці тому
@@nicane-9966 good luck with that fire hazard. cope more though
@TheLTcousins 3 місяці тому
@@iequalsnoobare you talking about the nvidia 12vhpwr adapter? You must be made of copium
@maxzett 3 місяці тому
Rly wondering which card to pick up. Coming from a 3070 @1440p I'm looking to get a 4070 Super or 4070Ti Super. I kinda think the Ti will be a better choice due to more VRAM and a tad more performance, I fear that price wise it doesn't make sense for a "in between" generation
@ChampagneOppaRN 3 місяці тому
That wouldn't even be am upgrade lol
@ChampagneOppaRN 3 місяці тому
If your looking for better performance with the vram. Get a 6950xt for 100$ less
@GloriousStone 3 місяці тому
@@ChampagneOppaRN why give such garbage advice. He will pay back those 100$ in the fucking power bill while missing out on DLSS 3.0 and proper RT.
@GloriousStone 3 місяці тому
Get the Ti super. 16gbs will be plenty for 1440p till the next generation of consoles. 12 may face simillar fate, your 3070 met.
@reehyss 3 місяці тому
I would get the ti super or a 7900 xt
@prashanthdoshi9926 3 місяці тому
take care steve , hope you get well soon !!
@honest9158 3 місяці тому
We won't mind seeing Tim do a video for the Ti Super and 4080 Super if it helps your health Steve!
@kenshirogenjuro873 3 місяці тому
Price drops for AMD cards should certainly be coming. This is a fairly good upgrade for the price, it just makes me that much more suspicious Nvidia will stifle availability until they increase the real-world price up to $700+.
@chronometer9931 3 місяці тому
Why would AMD drop prices, you drop prices In order to compete, but Nvidia is not competing. These cards are overpriced...
@kenshirogenjuro873 3 місяці тому
@@chronometer9931 this is true, as I’ve looked on it on paper the argument for Nvidia doesn’t get THAT much more compelling. Just a little bit. The small incremental changes AMD has been doing will probably be “enough” in their eyes. Still, a little inching down is better than none.
@Surfas_ 3 місяці тому
This really shows the 3080 was a heck of a gpu, glad I got one for 515€ nearly two years ago xD
@deljohn 3 місяці тому
I came here to say the same thing. Still no reason to upgrade two years later.
@darkfire3691 3 місяці тому
@@deljohn There was not a single gen in history of gpu where upgrading from 80 tier class to 70 class next gen was worth it... Stop dreaming and wake up
@Oneath 3 місяці тому
@@darkfire3691 what about 980 to 1070 ;)
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
No, it shows Nvidia has gotten greedy as SHIT with Lovelace GPU's.
@deljohn 3 місяці тому
@@darkfire3691 Fair point, but I can always dream... lol
@ChimcharrNo1 3 місяці тому
Founders edition cards are beautiful
@matuzaato 3 місяці тому
It's grsat you're able to squeeze in important aspects of the parnets' cards! Very appropriated
@zagloba1987 3 місяці тому
Ok so in standard rasterisation my 6950 xt performs exactly identical as 4070 super in 4K. God I am happy with that purchase 😅
@mjn5016 3 місяці тому
While having more vram xD
@zagloba1987 3 місяці тому
@@mjn5016It takes a lot less power. On the other hand when I was calculating my yearly cost (before the purchase) and compared it to standard 4070 it gave me around 15 USD per year diff so ... 😂
@Hardworkpays209 3 місяці тому
So a $1.25 a month more 😮😮
@zagloba1987 3 місяці тому
@@Hardworkpays209 1 cheap beer. I can live with that :D
@NamTran-xc2ip 3 місяці тому
Vram vs dlss + rt + a beer/month (Assuming you only game)
@iHaveTheDocuments 3 місяці тому
Good to see my 7900xt constantly kicking ass near the top of the charts
@exothrax 3 місяці тому
i like that my 4090 is not shown to help everyone cope.
@NulJern 3 місяці тому
@@exothrax yeah sure that's why...
@samuelsmith9582 3 місяці тому
I deeply appreciate these videos but I wish that there was a reference with cards from the previous generation and/or 2 prior in the preformance sections. It's always difficult to evaluate how much improvement one might see from a purchase when your current setup isn't even on the chart. 😂 Edit: I don't know if they went back and edited those slides but I see mine on there now. lmao
@TotallySlapdash 3 місяці тому
6xxx AMD series & NV 3xxx series _are_ the previous generation... but I agree. Considering their popularity, I'd be tempted to go back to 2XXX or maybe even include the 1070; as far as I can tell go to GPU for value is still a 2nd hand 2080Ti; 11GB VRAM and 85% of the performance of a 4070, for 1/2 the price
@ArteriusSaren 3 місяці тому
Guys with another banger in terms of short reviews until market has any chance to swing.
@jamesw5591 3 місяці тому
Just shows how good the original rtx 3080 was. You can pick it up used for mid to upper $300 usd.
@Frygisk 3 місяці тому
In Norway you can't find them second hand under $900, it's insane. Graphic cards are literally priced at what a full system was just a few years ago.
@-Noble 3 місяці тому
@@Frygiskthat's unfortunate i can repeatably buy them second hand in us for around 380-420 3060 ti's can be found for 200-250 as well used market here is pretty nice
@rubenmacedaa 3 місяці тому
I sell my 3070ti for 300€ and buy a 3080 for 330€ in France pretty nice deal I'm happy with it
@joost1183 3 місяці тому
@@-Noble3080 ti in netherlands used 700-800€. And theyre selling . Might as well buy the oveprriced rtx 4k . I guess the prices are this high because people bought them in covid times for 1300+ Edit: regulier 3080 like asus tuf start at 600
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