I'm Flat Out Worried - OneTigris Scaena Backpacking Tent - First Look at the Cosmitto Replacement

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OneTigris has been working hard on a new version of the Cosmitto Tent and this is what they have come up with.
To be honest, I am EXCEPTIONALLY WORRIED....
This might have been a huge mistake.....
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OneTigris Scaena Backpacking Tent - First Look at the Cosmitto Replacement - Preview
What it is :
My friends, what i have here is the Scaena (sky-n-ah) tent from OneTigris; remember the Cosmitto tent that I reviewed previously? If not you should check out my videos on that tent as it was a very interesting product; it had a lot going for it but unfortunately the design of the tent meant that it wasn’t waterproof.
After the testing done on my channel, the company recommended that the Cosmitto be only used in light rain.
How useful is a tent that can’t weather any sort of weather? Not useful at all.
Anyways, after my testing videos and review went up for the Cosmitto tent, OneTigris told me that they were working on a new version of this tent, one that addressed all of the issues that I had and to make a long story short, here we go!
This is the Scaena tent which is essentially the new and improved Cosmitto tent. While it hasn’t replaced the Cosmitto as it is still for sale for some reason, based on what OneTigris has told me, it is the new and improved Cosmitto tent.
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Colors : Coyote Brown
Materials :
Fly : 20D silicone Ripstop nylon treated with 3000mm rating
Body: 40D silicone Ripstop nylon with 3000mm floor
Poles : 7001 Aluminum
Zippers : YKK
Weight : 5.3lbs
Dimensions :
Stored : 15.5” long x 8” wide
Setup : 6.8’ long x 4.1’ wide x 3.7” tall
Included :
Groundsheet
5 guy lines
10 tent stakes
Poles
Storage bag
Price : $250
Features :
This is a 3 season tent,
2 doors
2 vestibules
Angled poles - 120 degrees - this provides campers with a bigger, more open tent space. Also, it gives the users a better view from the inside of the tent as well as better ventilation.
Fly can be set up with the floor to make a sort of quick setup shelter when the inner tent isn’t required or needed.
Inside Flaps can be used to block wind - this can be incredibly handy in the summer months in certain situations. For an example, lets say that you are at the beach or maybe you are camping in the mountains and you have wind coming in one way, you can setup the tent with the flaps towards the wind so you can control the amount of air flow into the tent while having the benefits of mesh on the other side. It’s a really smart design
Impressions :
Quality and Construction :
Setup :
Design :
Large two person tent
It is slightly heavy for a 2 person tent but it is feature rich
Well thought out stake out points - points on the sides for additional airflow
Cosmitto Tent :
Going back to the Cosmitto tent for a moment, OneTigris really does deserve a round of applause for the way that they handled all of the issues concerning that tent. As a summary, they released the Cosmitto tent, through testing problems were revealed and the company owned up to the issues and made some changes on their web site and also issued a warning - the tent is designed only for good conditions with nothing more than light rain. While they didn’t pull the tent from the market they did make those changes which can be seen on their site to this day.
From Here :
This is a preview of the Scaena tent and from here it is going into testing - rain testing is coming up with a Test Night Video and in also, I will have a video dedicated to the setup process of this tent which will show you how to do both setups that this tent is capable of.
I will be filming adventures with this tent and ultimately my review will go up.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 835
@Baddy187
@Baddy187 2 роки тому
With OneTigris, I always have the feeling that I want their tents to succeed harder than they do.
@chuckmikey001
@chuckmikey001 2 роки тому
For real, i really wanted to get their backwoods bungalow 2.0 but the reviews showing the leaks was a deal breaker for me
@Baddy187
@Baddy187 2 роки тому
@@chuckmikey001 Yes, that is a shame. I bought the "backwood retreat" and it is awesome. Works great. But other producs at this point I cannot recommend
@Funkteon
@Funkteon 2 роки тому
There's three kinds of products in the world, and here they are in order of quality from best to worst: 1) Designed in the west and manufactured in the west. 2) Designed in the west and manufactured in China. 3) Designed in China and manufactured in China. OneTigris is the third on that list...
@cyrilhaessig27
@cyrilhaessig27 2 роки тому
The Iron Wall and the Smokey Hut are pretty much the only 2 models which get positive reviews.
@phasmata3813
@phasmata3813 2 роки тому
It is more profitable for these kinds of companies to just invest in strategies of convincing you that they are caring or innovative rather than investing in actually caring or being innovative. You're just a mark to them.
@emsp8
@emsp8 2 роки тому
Once he got to the point where he put the rain fly on I was waiting for him to add the part or pull down the part with the vestibule. I was kind of shocked that there isn’t one. This thing will leak like a sieve. When it rains and if the wind is blowing the right direction it will hit the mesh, go through and run down the panels that are inside of the tent. Seriously, this made it past their “testing”?
@just_a_nother_Matt_on_YouTube
@just_a_nother_Matt_on_YouTube 2 роки тому
I'm wondering what all is involved with their testing? Do they use a garden hose and a high-powered fan to create wind if nature won't provide it, or did they set it up on a sunny day and call it good?
@vitaflo
@vitaflo 2 роки тому
There doesn't even need to be wind. The front doors are staked OUT from the tent! Rain falling straight down with no wind will fall onto that mesh.
@judyrobinson9556
@judyrobinson9556 2 роки тому
@@just_a_nother_Matt_on_UKposts haha yes!
@emsp8
@emsp8 2 роки тому
@@vitaflo Agreed. Very poor design.
@snowysnowyriver
@snowysnowyriver 2 роки тому
That brings a whole new meaning to "bathtub floor"!
@badnewsBH
@badnewsBH 2 роки тому
I don't understand why the front of the tent, where the fly has been removed, is designed to be staked *out* from the rest of the tent. Won't that expose those centre seams to rainfall even more?
@ewengillies9826
@ewengillies9826 2 роки тому
Spot on. Bushyboy Oz.
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 2 роки тому
The tent needs a larger vestibule area and a redesigned zipper system. That I think would be spot on.
@PhotonChief
@PhotonChief 2 роки тому
Yes, but it seems to provide a small slope for the rain to run off, as opposed to a flat sheet that doesn't direct the water or wind.
@Ian..
@Ian.. 2 роки тому
That’s a very strange design departure from version 1. All everyone wanted was for them to make it 100% waterproof.
@megrim8292
@megrim8292 2 роки тому
I bought the original, glad I didn't send it back for this version.
@lunaticyoshi1
@lunaticyoshi1 2 роки тому
Yeah, I thought the overall design for version 1 was well received. I'd think about purchasing a fixed (non-leaking) version of it for myself. However, I don't think this design is an improvement and I'd never buy this new revision.
@danielkutcher5704
@danielkutcher5704 2 роки тому
In my neck of the woods, the average local would call it "Wicked stoopit"!
@holyeti3553
@holyeti3553 2 роки тому
@@danielkutcher5704 Daft is another way of putting it , wicket daft ....
@lavenderlilacproductions
@lavenderlilacproductions Рік тому
A can of flex seal spray or little heavier fly is all it needed
@TheePIB
@TheePIB 2 роки тому
I think what we're seeing here is tent design by graphic artists, not backpackers … or even people who have ever been inside of a tent, let alone slept in one overnight, let alone relied on one to keep them alive on trail. Like the marketing department took a list of features they wanted to be able to put on the ad, then designed the tent themselves without consulting anyone who has used a tent for more than five seconds.
@chuckmikey001
@chuckmikey001 2 роки тому
im pretty sure the cutting off of a whole half of the tent fly was sime kind of cost cutting measure, ridiculous when you consider how much it costs when you have sub 100 dollar tents with a full and often generous rain fly
@taterhater7419
@taterhater7419 2 роки тому
obviously not backpackers. the thing weighes 5 LB.
@TheePIB
@TheePIB 2 роки тому
@@taterhater7419 Fair enough. I hadn't even looked at that aspect of it 😂
@tplambert
@tplambert 2 роки тому
Don’t blame us graphic artists, this lays purely with marketing and their bullshit ideas 😉
@KimberlyGreen
@KimberlyGreen 2 роки тому
On the positive side, a re-designed fly would let the other good features Luke mentioned take center stage instead.
@frostriver8686
@frostriver8686 2 роки тому
Completely correct. Seems like they just wanted to be different. Will never understand why they didn’t make both door sides of the fly the same
@johnblaze8092
@johnblaze8092 2 роки тому
Agreed.
@schulzbrianr
@schulzbrianr 2 роки тому
I really hope this tent performs well, the design looks like it has every feature I could want, very well designed. EDIT: That lack of a fly is concerning....
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex 2 роки тому
lol
@leorguevara3622
@leorguevara3622 2 роки тому
Maybe should have been a vestabule🤔
@AJHart-eg1ys
@AJHart-eg1ys 2 роки тому
At the very least, be on the look out for a less expensive Chinese version that has corrected the rainfly issue.
@casperchung1159
@casperchung1159 2 роки тому
@@AJHart-eg1ys Wouldn't it just be a regular tent? This tent looks ordinary to me, aside from the fact that they took out the vestibule
@jameshoover492
@jameshoover492 2 роки тому
@@casperchung1159 the way the poles work allows for more vertical walls. It should be quite a comfortable interior space.. if its not raining. Additionally, in the right climate, without the rainfly, the abundance of mesh panels will give a better than average ‘sleeping under the stars’ experience. Those are the things I notice which are different from the majority of tents out there. Not to say you CAN’T find other tents with those features..
@erikcarey215
@erikcarey215 2 роки тому
Sometimes I think one tigris is so focused on design and innovation they forgot practicality, but we’ll have to see how it holds up in your testing
@bernielamont825
@bernielamont825 2 роки тому
My idea with One Tigris is that the designers are "book smart" that means to me that they don't actually camp in them! "But they look good, thats all they have to be"
@slick7209
@slick7209 2 роки тому
I run in to a lot of book so called smart and they have no idea what they are doing or talking about. It would had been a great tent if Luke was on the design board or for sure had input on the new tent then my friends it would have been a number 1 seller
@phasmata3813
@phasmata3813 2 роки тому
That's generally the best case scenario for these Chinese companies. It only gets worse from there.
@mikeshelton5629
@mikeshelton5629 2 роки тому
It'll be fine.......in the desert. Great review
@jasonhaney108
@jasonhaney108 2 роки тому
Where has plain and simple common sense gone in the design process of these tents?? Thanks for your completely honest reviews!!
@phdeez565
@phdeez565 2 роки тому
After watching your review, I would never trust this tent without packing a tarp. However, the inner by itself seems decent for fair weather stargazing.
@kokopelauwebb5731
@kokopelauwebb5731 2 роки тому
It's cheaper to buy a 2 person bug net if that is what you want
@scuba5k
@scuba5k 2 роки тому
Oh man, this is odd. I can’t wait for the rain test. Edit: I usually think during these rain storm test it would be fun to hangout with Luke. But I think Luke should keep the truck cab close.
@ThePatrick42044
@ThePatrick42044 Рік тому
I feel so sorry for Luke. I don't see it going well. Hope he brings a military modular sleep system so at least he stays dry... Lol
@giftedfox4748
@giftedfox4748 2 роки тому
There is a lot of good design choices that makes this tent very desirable. However, with the possible big flaw of being a bathtub makes me wonder if I need to put a tarp over the big hole. It does seem like a big design flaw with the zippers not being water sealed and just a tiny bit of Velcro.
@steventhomas729
@steventhomas729 2 роки тому
I agree with you about the fly. I've never been camping in the rain when the rain was falling straight down. Blowing wind will cause rain to get inside of the test like you suggested it might. And the Velcro enclosure instead of a zipper is a big mystery to me. Luke, thank you very much for your continued input on camping equipment.
@pchelloo
@pchelloo 2 роки тому
Keeeep us updated please, Luke. Your unbiased reports and tests are needed and appreciated.
@mikeroy6713
@mikeroy6713 2 роки тому
Because I know this channel is the real deal I find myself more entertained by the massive failures . In that regard this tent is a classic and deserves everything it’s got coming.
@trikelife4960
@trikelife4960 2 роки тому
Oh man, I was getting really interested as you were setting up the inner. Especially when the cross pole went in and you could see how spacious it was. My heart literally sank when you showed the installed rainfly haha. This tent has so much potential! But I just don't see how it could keep a storm out. Even without wind, the rain will most likely get in at the bottom corners of those inner panels or run around the fabric where it meets the mesh and drip inside. Strong winds will most likely push rain right into the tent, both at the velcro'd edges of the inner panels as well as around the tent inner to the mesh behind the fly. A proper vestibule on that side, even if it had a big gap to the ground, would have made this a solid design. I can't wait for your follow up episodes Luke. I really hope this tent is somehow waterproof lol.
@runclimbrepeat
@runclimbrepeat 2 роки тому
That "open" side is going to be the deal breaker for this tent.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 2 роки тому
"a tent that isn't waterproof is practically useless." Exactly
@heathereusden3029
@heathereusden3029 2 роки тому
Thank you for your very thoughtful honest, in-depth reviews.
@jodyprivee2774
@jodyprivee2774 2 роки тому
excellent video. We have learned so much from you. Keep it going! Can't wait to see further testing of this tent..btw, if I went a head and bought this tent now, I would be sure to use a tarp to cover the fly less area. One of the first things I cleaned from use is to always bring a tarp or two!
@livableincome
@livableincome 2 роки тому
Wow. I am so glad there are independent reviewers like you on youtube. Thanks.
@robertwedge6431
@robertwedge6431 2 роки тому
I really want for this tent to perform well, but I don’t have high hopes after the set up review. I can’t see how this tent is going to not leak. Thank you for this vlog.
@forrestgreene1139
@forrestgreene1139 Рік тому
Even though you drive me nuts sometimes, these really are the best outdoor gear reviews on You Tube. Thank you.
@richarddemas5262
@richarddemas5262 2 роки тому
That is gonna leak. The fly inside of the tent is, if nothing else, gonna capture water between the mesh panel and the back panel, assuming it does not leak into the tent.
@jasondunbar3667
@jasondunbar3667 2 роки тому
Yep and then when you open them a giant account of water will come rushing out the door panels. And only if all that water hasn't already started pouring out from the middle of the panels.
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper 2 роки тому
I am flat out worried for you haha! Looks like my search for a budget friendly yet capable tent is still landing on the litefighter.
@mikekraut7643
@mikekraut7643 2 роки тому
My first though was that you had the fly on backwards and the open side of it was supposed to correspond with the solid body wall side
@yoshimasters1
@yoshimasters1 Рік тому
In this same style of tent while writing. Rained and snowed on us. No leaks. Odd design, but works. Fits two adults with cots. Have not had any water leakage. Two rain storms. We have been camping once a month through out the winter with this tent as well. Held up fine at -15f wind chill. Being able to strap ground tarp to rain fly is hugh plus. 1 person can set up but less frustrating with two. Keep up the good honest reviews!
@djn1k
@djn1k 2 роки тому
I have 2 onetigris tents and love them. However this one really misses the mark considerably
@baay66
@baay66 2 роки тому
Just bought one the other day after I sore the rain test. can not wait.
@jpwhiddon
@jpwhiddon 2 роки тому
Thanks for your videos, and saving us money. Your experience helps us know which items are worth investing in.
@kellybeatty4623
@kellybeatty4623 2 роки тому
Thank you for all your hard work. Stay safe. Stay free
@RichardHorsfield
@RichardHorsfield 2 роки тому
So the tent is actually more waterproof without the inner! I always work to the "keep it simple" method... the outer keeps the rain out so make it bigger than the inner.
@thistoshallpass395
@thistoshallpass395 2 роки тому
My favorite Mountain Hardwear tent had an interior zippered "wall" that covered almost the entire upper surface. It's been discontinued for over 10 years. Wild horses in Wyoming hooved the rain fly made it unusable. Got a great replacement from Mountain Hardwear but have had issue with the lack of interior zip up "rain fly". I've been woken up in the middle of the night with rain setting in and being able to zip up a protective layer until I got the rain fly put up was quite nice. I was happy (yet sad due to application) to see another interior "rainfly" used by someone.
@stuarthatton1973
@stuarthatton1973 2 роки тому
Loved your first thoughts on this tent and i think your right it will leak at some point , im not quite sure what they were thinking not having the flysheet cover the door also , cant wait to see the outcome
@MarksShrimpTanks
@MarksShrimpTanks 2 роки тому
The improved combat shelter has internal fly on its large mesh doors and mine has never leaked but then again they are not out in the open so much.
@TYOUNG0168
@TYOUNG0168 2 роки тому
Nice Job Luke. Looking forward to seeing the results. Thanks !
@sammybrown4680
@sammybrown4680 2 роки тому
Really enjoyed this video can't wait to see the full review of this tent.
@Mrsandriss2011
@Mrsandriss2011 2 роки тому
I'm really looking forward for the rain and wind tests for this tent. I know very little about these things but I would be surprised if it did not leak in some form. Thanks for your awesome videos, Luke! Greetings from Roger in Sweden!
@adastra5346
@adastra5346 2 роки тому
Thank you Luke. You're keeping these companies on their toes....and providing all of us outdoor people with better products.... you rock man.
@liamsorensen5897
@liamsorensen5897 2 роки тому
I feel like most of these budget companies just make similar quality Chinese made products then change the tent shape and say it’s better. The bottom line is the waterproof rating. The AquaQuest Defender tarp is rated to 20Kmm waterproof. Just buy that, buy a big net and learn some configurations.
@lindawoods6841
@lindawoods6841 2 роки тому
Your reviews are the best and honest,, I so thank you Luke for the testing of this tent..
@mausball
@mausball 2 роки тому
That open side is kinda funny. It's a decent idea, but the execution looks extremely iffy. I look forward to a heavy rain test. My prediction is that in light rain it'll be fine. Maybe even medium rain. Heavy blown rain will push through that semi-open center rib. High wind with even light rain will probably soak the inside.
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 2 роки тому
Good looking out
@razorsharpbt124
@razorsharpbt124 2 роки тому
This makes me wonder what these tent manufacturers are thinking; it's almost like it's a joke or something. There's no way that design is going to work against water intrusion.
@ledicarusmedia
@ledicarusmedia 2 роки тому
The pictures on the OneTigris website imply that the full zippered back door of the tent is the actual front door and that the two inside-fly doors act more like windows. This is why in the photos you can see the fly rolled back away from the single door and light passing through the back (front) of the tent. It's deceptive really in how it is photographed. This has no effect on the things you mentioned, even if you never touched the zippered/velcro'd two doors and only used the full zippered back door as your entry, the two door side would still be fully exposed to the elements. The spot where the two zippers come together, if you didn't change the design of the tent entirely so they didn't, would be resolved by adding a small vecro flap that could cover over the zippers and the pinkey sized hole. This would allow the zippers to be unzipped from inside the tent and protect them from the elements outside.
@johnniemagallanes3141
@johnniemagallanes3141 2 роки тому
That front door not having a fly is super interesting! Even if it is waterproof I would think that the mesh would get wet and cause issues later down the road
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 2 роки тому
Hi from Syracuse NY brother thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures on different items
@susiehamm216
@susiehamm216 2 роки тому
GREAT video! I really appreciate your honesty! Looking forward to the final tests! We appreciate you and your videos so...much! Thanks Luke!🥰
@FlyWithMe_666
@FlyWithMe_666 2 роки тому
OneTigris watching this: “Hey google, what is a “fly”? Hey google, should tents be waterresistant?” Oh…
@elteescat
@elteescat 2 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 Рік тому
😂😂
@visnuexe
@visnuexe 2 роки тому
I figured it out! This is a great fun tent for a couple to have a memorable adventure where they get rained on in their tents! (Assuming it will leak.) They can talk about how it was for years! LOL. Otherwise this tent is designed for people who don't stay in their campsite whenever they get rain. They just pack up and go home! Kind of typical if you ever camp at camp sites. When the weather gets rough the weekenders get going. Simple!
@MrTowton1461
@MrTowton1461 2 роки тому
Top marks to you Luke. Tigris needs to pay you a consultancy fee. it's clear they don't have a clue.
@joshlindsey296
@joshlindsey296 2 роки тому
Thanks Luke for all your information and what you give us.
@Cowdog-oz1uh
@Cowdog-oz1uh 2 роки тому
Thanks for the great info.
@MikeJones-xw3te
@MikeJones-xw3te 2 роки тому
Luke, the One Tigris tent may be new, but in jungle monsoons, hot arid conditions, I've been happy with an OzTrail mozzie dome with a fly or tarp set up. The mozzie dome has 2 zips that meet in a corner, but OzTrail have a small flap of material covering the gap /hole. My whole up would cost only a fraction of the cost of the tent you're trying out. Remember the expensive gear isn't always the best. Good luck .
@promiscuous5761
@promiscuous5761 2 роки тому
Thank you.
@BakerBaker1-9
@BakerBaker1-9 2 роки тому
Thanks again !
@rolling-home
@rolling-home 2 роки тому
This shape is so amazing 😍
@allenwegener4798
@allenwegener4798 2 роки тому
I've tent camped since 1968 and had several layouts on different tents. Still have an old coleman cabin that doesn't leak. It gets wet where fabric stretched at the front door. This OneTigris tent would have been an awesome tent had they added a 2nd vestibule. But not this way. Note my old coleman besides having door and window panels inside also had exterior flaps and on real windy wet conditions were very nice to have. HOOKUP THE GARDEN HOSE AND SPRAY the Tigris. YOU WILL SEE HOW GOOD VELCRO WORKS. Maybe set it up underneath an 8 x 10 tarp to keep rain out.
@MrAlphafang
@MrAlphafang 2 роки тому
Looking forward to the follow up on this Luke. I like the look but if it leaks then in my book it's a no go.
@markc1548
@markc1548 2 роки тому
I really wish you had a score board for all the tents you've tried, with your ratings given to each. It would nice to be able to do a quick search before going out to buy a tent.
@Mxp198
@Mxp198 2 роки тому
Thanks!
@TheOutdoorGearReview
@TheOutdoorGearReview 2 роки тому
Thank you for your support Mark. S&H - Luke
@johnblaze8092
@johnblaze8092 2 роки тому
This is a really nice looking tent and looks like it has a lot of room, OneTigris should keep improving on this design.
@theodoredicks3305
@theodoredicks3305 2 роки тому
Well I think that there should be a tie off point in the top center to pull the fly out away from the tent front door. Or a flap like what is on the back to protect at least half the front door. That's just what I see. Great video thanks for the information.
@OutdoorsWithCWest
@OutdoorsWithCWest 2 роки тому
hey Luke. i just received my Scaena from OT and took it out in the rain. Leaked in multiple areas. just a weird design. You hit the nail on the head with this review
@bigtom68
@bigtom68 2 роки тому
I am very interested on how this new panel design works. with wind driven rain i see alot of water in this tent future
@iamnobody9542
@iamnobody9542 2 роки тому
They NEED a front vestibule, either an attachment to the fly or built in to the fly. I have a timberline and the separate front vestibule. Works. Love it. There are mods that you can do, like extend the fly farther to the ground. I recommend that you do that. Tape or seal those seam lines, as well. Jerry
@thedailyinanity243
@thedailyinanity243 2 роки тому
I am very curious to see the testing on this. I have had tents that the mesh repels and sheds water exceptionally well. Given the angle of the exposed area on this tent, if it has appropriate mesh size and silicon treatment, it could potentially shed water well. But, it is always going to be susceptible to wind. At best, it is going to be loud in high winds. Very curious to see the testing, indeed.
@danieljones2183
@danieljones2183 2 роки тому
Looks like another tent that could be excellent when used in conjunction with a tarp, but as a standalone product may be somewhat lacking. I'll be watching for the storm testing.
@smokesandalloy9487
@smokesandalloy9487 Рік тому
Just need a tent for the tent
@RangerPhantomSAS
@RangerPhantomSAS 2 роки тому
You are right, I'd be worried too. No quality tent would not have a fly that fully covers the opening(s), to keep rain out. I'm guessing when they mean three seasons, they mean in the best possible weather. You would need an additional fly or tarp to keep out the water.
@mixmediaproductions
@mixmediaproductions 2 роки тому
I had an a-frame tent that had an inside zippered panel front with a zippered mesh that was great because the zipper was offset, and the panel was outside. So, you got protected, and only deal was to unzip the mesh to open the doorway zippers.
@CS-in3pg
@CS-in3pg 2 роки тому
Actually, that is the answer. One Tigris can simply add a tarp piece over the opening attached to the current rain fly that can be staked out by walking sticks and tie downs creating a covered area. That's the easy fix and it would still only weigh maybe 6 pounds total.
@vincedancer3259
@vincedancer3259 2 роки тому
This looks like a good tent for mostly dry conditions. The rain fly inside most likely would not work for much more than one season in the Pacific Northwest.
@bigjonsadventures9537
@bigjonsadventures9537 2 роки тому
That would be a awesome tent if it had a vestibule over the door to protect it better, with a stove jack in the vestibule for a stove to make it a hot tent ! Then and only then would I pay $250 for it ! Ps I melt homemade fixing WaX in the seams of all my tents as soon as I buy them ! Thanks Luke 4 all you & Susan do !
@briargoatkilla
@briargoatkilla 2 роки тому
If they would put dual vestibules on it I would probably buy it whether it leaks or not. I can always stop leaks myself with a good spray and seam seal. I love the head room inside.
@dbstewart4496
@dbstewart4496 2 роки тому
Has some good features, but two deal breakers are 1) does not look like it is rain storm worthy. 2) this tick magnet needs a tent with no gaps that allows bugs to get in. Also, heavy.
@michaelcase8231
@michaelcase8231 2 роки тому
Looks like a two season tent at best. It will be interesting to see how it preforms on the tests.
@honorharrington4546
@honorharrington4546 2 роки тому
Can you use the included ground sheet as an awning and protect the front of the tent?
@TheFLOMAN76
@TheFLOMAN76 2 роки тому
Good idea but you shouldn't have to use it that way.
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 Рік тому
@@TheFLOMAN76 I agree and if that is needed, then the tent is junk.
@TheFLOMAN76
@TheFLOMAN76 Рік тому
@@jeremy8715 Damn right! Luke did an update on this tent though I do believe. It did not leak at all but I can't remember if they updated the design or not. You figure the way it is designed, that it would leak like a sieve. 🤷
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 2 роки тому
Luke I would throw a very large tarp over the tent which will fix the problem with the door leaking and safety concerns
@Joe_HamRadioGuy
@Joe_HamRadioGuy 2 роки тому
That rent looks like a good design. It may be great with great weather. I would like to see it with a better zippered door and a full cover as well. But we will see what happens after your test.
@KungFuTweety1
@KungFuTweety1 2 роки тому
So close... yet so far... they must extend the fly...looking forward to your tests!
@keepgoing637
@keepgoing637 2 роки тому
the door design seems that rain would just flow over flaps. and you have other door to enter anyway. it seems nice in winter to block all the wind and in summer ventilation could be very nice. and if you use tarp it could be large door to enter... so clever design.
@Kez_abi
@Kez_abi 2 роки тому
Iv'e slept in a handfull of tents and when you showed this I was like no this is basics! no on more levels than one
@nc_mtbmedic1399
@nc_mtbmedic1399 2 роки тому
Going for the Ozark trail tent
@BrosephRussell
@BrosephRussell 2 роки тому
It looks stylish that's for sure and size is great just worried about the front being exposed like that 😳 for my area in the Desert it be great as we don't get much rain but still . You never know with weather.
@raynman67
@raynman67 2 роки тому
There is something to be said about purchasing online by photos and reading suspect reviews and actually going to a store to see the product in person. I personally recommend you see the product in person if at all possible and I think this tent is the perfect example of this. Or make sure the tent is approved by Luke!!
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf 2 роки тому
We'll certainly see how it goes in rain. Though, as an Arizona native, I like the extreme ventilation.
@MrWipex
@MrWipex 2 роки тому
Oh my oh my. They made a "fair weather tent". It might actually make a really nice tent/tarp combo tough.... Thanks for an interesting first look vid Luke!! great as always.
@daadadda
@daadadda 2 роки тому
would that ground sheet stand the test of an improvised tarp I wonder? And how would the bare tent floor perform then?
@rosslangerak8361
@rosslangerak8361 2 роки тому
I have a twelve year old REI Halfdome two person tent. Its poleset has three poles. One pole extends diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner. The other two poles each have their own hub, and extend from one corner to the attachment point on the opposite side above the door. I thought it was a rather clever system. I don't know why REI stopped using it. I don't know why others don't use it.
@brnrecluse2946
@brnrecluse2946 2 роки тому
I think you might be right Luke. I think I'm very interested in seeing how it does in a storm. I'll be looking for your review. Strength and honor.
@ogbobbye
@ogbobbye 2 роки тому
I really like the concept of this tent and wish they would have put more thought into rain proofing. I would never expect 100% protection in server condition, but in heavy rain and moderate to gust of high winds you need the tent to perform. I'm not like you testing myself in the extremes, but we have all been out when that chance of light rain has turned into a frog drowning down pour with colder than expected temps.
@marjiecleveland
@marjiecleveland 2 роки тому
Mind blown for sure. I do hope it passes your testing. OneTigris makes really good products.
@mattbeebe1288
@mattbeebe1288 2 роки тому
try putting the fly on the other way, it looks like it might work. ill bet you get better rain protection putting the entrance on the other side.
@judyrobinson9556
@judyrobinson9556 2 роки тому
I agree with your assessment of the tent. I dont care for how it's made. Makes one wonder how much this company knows about tent making and weather conditions. Good that you test equipment and keep us informed. It will be interesting to see what happens when you test it out in windy rainy conditions.
@prmath
@prmath 2 роки тому
Luke, these companies need to bring you on board as an engineer/tester. I know I certainly would😄
@mountainson8688
@mountainson8688 2 роки тому
I LIKE the internal fly for the same reason you do - Air (and heat) control... But the outer fly on that side needs a vestibule. It surely does. Even just for cooking in intemperate weather.
@DrDennis
@DrDennis 2 роки тому
Loved the looks of the new tent but no rain fly over the front is a concern. Probably be out of my price range for a senior.
@happyguy61
@happyguy61 2 роки тому
I agree it’s quite astounding that there’s no external vestibule and fly. A redesigned fly would make this a viable proposition for sure! Good review Luke. Keen to see what (if any) water ingress occurs in rainy & windy conditions!
@nnnnnnnnnick5557
@nnnnnnnnnick5557 2 роки тому
Looks like it'd do really well in the desert!
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