FIA: "Next year's cars will be UPS trucks." F1 teams: **new track records**

I still believe one team will randomly show up with a car 2 seconds faster than the rest next year because they figured out something big brain that the others didnt

I swear this happens with any rules that are supposed to slow the cars down. F1 teams are unstoppable

We don't mind if the cars become slower, we just want at least 4 teams having a shot at both championships. And everyone else closely battling it out for the midfield.

The 2017 rules change was incredibly short-sighted. Fans, whether in the seats or watching at home, can't really tell whether the cars are faster or slower. They can, however, see that there's no passing going on.

I bet the 2022 cars are going to be *WILD* . Teams have had an extra year to develop their cars (and find loopholes) yet they have not seen where they stand compared to other teams. Whatever happens there´s goin to be a big shakeup

The new F1 cars may start slower, but as is the nature of F1, I’m sure the teams will get the performance back by the end of the year‼️💯🏎🏁

you just know that some teams saw pat symonds statement and are sweating bullets if their cars are nowhere near 0.5s slower than this year 🤣

You can still make an outwash front wing, and you don't unlearn what you have learned. Lots of things teams learned this year with regards to ride height and how the floor works means they have a lot of ideas to try out next year.

Raw pace is not as important as improve the ability to follow another car imho, as closer racing will make Sundays more enjoyable. How much time they'll lose compared to current spec cars is hard to say, although one thing is certain: the engineers will try to claw back as much performance as possible, especially as they get to know the cars

I’m so excited to see the cars hit the track for the first time. You know at least one team will have a car that looks way different than the model car the FIA has shown us.

Honestly, who gives a toss if theyre 0.3s a lap slower if there is exciting racing happening more than 3 times a season!! EDIT: Bernie Ecclestone enters the chat

I hope with all the time they say they're giving the '22 specs Haas can roll up in something better than a motorized shopping cart next season

They need to make the cars lighter again, the fact that they are closer to a ton then 1/2 ton is just ridiculous

History has shown that when the FIA has tried to slow the cars down the teams have ended up finding a way to make them faster.

Wish they were smaller thus lighter, it would really be great. With the low pressure downforce creating much less drag I imagine the cars will be faster on the straights and in the high speed corners, the exact reason they were banned, well let's just see how it all plays out.

I didn’t really think of the cars’ pace next season, I just really want to see how each team tackles the new regulations and any cheeky innovations they squeeze out of them

2:15 there was no race at Monaco in 2020 so it shouldn’t be included

Does absolute speed really matter though? Sure, cars are now much faster than they were in the early 2000s but due to low corner speeds and high stability they have looked as agile as a mobility scooter ever since 2014. Hope this improves with the new regulations

They're still huge Chevy Suburban Boats... That's great that they're faster, but I miss the smaller, agile, and twitchy cars that could turn on a dime.

2019 F1 cars were supposed to be 1.5 seconds slower, look how that turned out

Hopefully they'll be slower lap times because there's more actual RACING! 👍

Depends if he's talking qualifying pace or race pace. At the moment tyre limitations make race pace much lower than qualifying pace. Potentially with the tyre changes, the race pace might not be much lower, if drivers can push more consistently.

Being one of, if not the fastest vehicle capable of racing on a track is a big part of the appeal of F1, there is a limit to how much you can slow down the cars before you lose that appeal and therefore viewers.

My guess is the performance losses will be minimal. Just an additional comment to say that I think The Race is among the leaders in informed content on F1. Really enjoy this channel.

I feel like 2022 will be status quo for that season as the best teams have the best people - as much as it would hilarious to see Maz leading the championship, I can;t see Haas creating a BGP 001 for example.

I'm excited for the upcoming year, I hope that car's colorway are become more beautiful and blend well to the design

I'll take a couple seconds slower if it made everyone more competitive. I don't want it to be Indy style spec cars, but would be nice to see drastic competitive advantages amongst the same teams shrink, so we see more random podium combinations.

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I think f1 cars should be the quickest cars on the planet around any circuit. They should be pushing the envelope on what is possible. I was really happy this appeared to be the case from 2017 onwards as imo having lap records last set in the early 2000s is wrong.

Moving away from the 650kgs weight is the biggest problem of F1. The current PU formula is just too heavy for 300+ kph. Hence more downforce is needed for cornering, hence the cars are more sensitive to dirty air. Damn!

And....@3:29 they must all be having that famous Zoolander moment in their own heads. What Zoolander moment am I talking about? How are we going to fit all those drivers into that car? That was something that the FIA did not anticipate.

Cornering speeds seem like they will be much higher with the new side boards. They aren’t exactly like the 80s vacuum effect, but it does increase the downforce a good bit. Also, the backfield racers will be far closer to the middle pack with the new rim sizes and reduced dirty air. Should make for tighter and more exciting GPs

I think the fans could be in for a treat next year! All these things are good signs that we could see some really good wheel to wheel fighting among the drivers and teams for wins & championships!

With the new generation of cars depending on ground effects generated by the "tunnels", I can't help wondering what the effect might be if elements of the underside are damaged by some of the kerbs. We have seen some spectacular damage done at circuits which have higher kerbs but, on the whole, whilst costly in terms of financial / repairs, they have not been significantly dangerous. I recall that there was concern about ground effects back in the early '80s that damage might cause a sudden loss of downforce resulting in a car flying off the circuit and serious injury and, as far as I can recall, this was one of the reasons ground effects and skirts were banned back then. I am hoping the new generation won't suffer the same way.

I just want to see different teams on podium finishes every race weekend. Ain't nothing wrong with a HAAS on P1 in Spa.

I don't know I think usually slower cars associate with better racing but time will tell that's for sure

Isola: "So they feel like more of a racing tyre" Nice marketing spin. I don't remember drivers complaining about imprecision or lack of reactivity in the decades of big sidewall tyres before Pirelli were asked to make shit tyres.

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2:10 pretty sure there was no Monaco GP in 2020?

if these regs work well, the next objective for fia should be -Lighter cars. Adding back refueling would be nice, if they can find a way to make it safer. This would save some weight and might even give us fuel strategies. (do you stop for fuel mid race or fill up for the whole race from the start) -More powerful engines, maybe 1500hp (more sound would be nice too) -Change DRS rules so that anyone can use it anytime they want. Doesn't matter if they are first or last. (this is an easy way to make the cars faster too)

Honestly never thought they would be slower than half second, especially with them going back to ground effect aerodynamics

I reckon the running order for the teams will be much the same as it is now, really looking forward to close racing putting more emphasis on driver skill rather than money thrown at development, at the start anyway maybe?

They’re going to be a lot quicker in the straights with less drag. Baku, Monza, Bahrain might see lap records broken after time

I think Red Bull will be very quick with the new cars as Mr Newey who designs them just happened to be the designer the last time ground effect cars were raced and nobody got near his cars.

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my real wonder is if we will still get this high vs low rake split among cars or if they will all adopt a similar rake given that venturi tunnels will now be the key feature.

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time loss for which type of track? that's a big variable. also teams have been developing for an extra year now, granted without actual track time, but still that's at least worth 1s

I'm more and more excited to see those cars in action ! It's getting really close now. Their speed isn't all important for me (so long as they're not 10s slower) but I want to see good racing, just like everyone else. The thing that irritates me, is the size and weight of those cars... Just 15 years ago, cars were 620kg and not fueled for the whole race. They were 30 cm narrower I believe, and at least 1meter shorter. They were so agile ! But also less stuck to the track, making them so hard to drive, and that showed ! Now they really seem to be on rails sometimes. I hope they make the cars smaller, even though they could become a bit slower. But the 2004 cars were way smaller, didn't produce as much dirty air, and yet they were faster than today's cars and we had good racing (not exactly in 2004 because Ferrari was miles ahead, but look at 2003 with very few changes)

Love to see normally aspirated V12’s with no aero packages allowed. Or even better, only rule is open wheelers and must fit into the box.

Yes, it's an academic question since we're supposed to be interested in how close the cars will be fighting, not how fast they will be overall. Academically speaking though, I believe they will be slower and I'd give a max of 2 years till they reach their current speed. (Probably much less than that)

For me it can be 15 seconds slower if it means closer racing. Curious to see the real pace though, it'll be interesting

I'm excited for the car reveals in February. It's going to be very interesting to us budding aerospace engineer wannabes.

I think it will come down to the style of track for pace gain or drop off, tracks where you have your foot down for longer I think will see faster lap times, and the opposite effect for tracks where you’re not

It’s going to be fun to watch teams improve race by race. I do hope we are breaking track records in a few years of these regs bc IMO that is what F1 is partially about. Creating cars that extend the limits every year

HAAS has been too quiet and “under the radar” for quite some time now, and they are definitely trying to run incognito when it comes to development and “projections” for next year… I think they might have something up their sleeve. I sure would be fun to want him them mixing with the midfielders.

"Coughs" party-mode ban midway in the season introduced at Monza 2020 "Coughs"

With that Merc spec engine introduced in Brazil 2021, I would easily bet Merc's would not only make up for the lost time but also gain more to go faster than 2021 spec cars. Can't say about the other teams though!!

Take me back to the cars in the early 2000s nothing can be compared to this cars driving 348 km/h

Well this ages well

Honestly, I think that's good. Maybe the 2022 cars will finally look like they are actually doing 300 KM/H and are always on edge again. Me personally, I hope that Codemasters is able to replicate that experience into the F1 2022 game 😀

I think it will depend on how well the new cars take the kurbs. Riding on those kurbs, is the key to faster lap times. Also finding the optimal ride height, spring weight, and dampening for each track will play a big part in clawing back the lost performance. That extra weight will be a challenge though.

I’m hoping we’re going to see a lot more battles in the coming years. And F1 is going to be more competitive. This year has been spectacular! I like idea of thinner tyre walls giving the cars more maneuverability.

I just have the feeling that F1 should have stayed the way it is right now until 2025 and then go for a full overhaul of the sport with the new engine regs + the aero regs together

I think the 2022 cars are maybe 1 second slower than these years cars,but time will tell.

I remember Adrian Newey once saying something like: The job of the cars designer - when he's facing new regulations - is not to make the car go faster but to regain as much laptime as possible. Teams will definitely find many innovative ways to make the 2022 cars almost as fast as the last gen cars.

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I have a feeling that overtaking might not be as easy as they say it will. The cars will be so bulky and heavy that wont allow the drivers to throw them around as much.

If the pace does drop, it'll in part be due to E10 fuels requiring better fuel 'management' during the race. Welcome back to the boredom of watching cars driving well within their potential, even more than they do now, just to save fuel.

I think sausage curbs will play a huge role next year with the majority of downforce generated from the floor and susceptible to damage and won’t be a quick fix or swap to repair damage

really looking forward to next season !!

I'm really looking forward to these cars, mainly because I think the cars of the last 5 years have been hideous! But anyone who watches other motorsports knows that outright speed doesn't really matter if the racing is good!

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If they could find a way to make refuelling safer, I really wish they could bring back refuelling. It would even further make racing on a Sunday more exciting, because now not only is there tyre strategy but there’s a fuel strategy that comes into it, so the smartest teams will benefit, richness of the team doesn’t impact how smart a strategy team is. It would also make the cars lighter which is always a plus side.

They may develop something where the ride height rises down the straight, to eliminate the downforce. If you could lower the whole thing when going around a corner only, it would be ideal.

Title: "WHY F1's 2022 cars will be quicker..." Video answer: "None given..."

This seems to be the first time rules have been changed for the good of the sport, not to suit a certain team or respond to a single teams' rapid development. If it's truly leveling of the playing field we'll see a completely different landscape next year, with Williams and others able to compete for wins. I hope.

I’m excited about the changes . Very much Looking forward to it.

Went to the race at the Circuit of the America's and looked at both cars in person. The knew car is so much sleeker in every way that people will be able to push it through the corners and also push it behind the opponents for overtakes because there will be much less dirty air. I cannot express how different the wings of the vehicles are.

If they are not faster we will watch Indy

I think I know the answer. SIZE

ross brawn: let's get a double difusor on there. hasn't failed me yet

So many good points in this video. A lot of it may be uncertain. But what i'm seeing is it's more of what the teams can do rather than the regulations itself.

The only thing that saddens me about these new regs, and ANY new regs tbh, is the constant weight gain of the cars. It’s anti F1 in my opinion. I know, I know, safety blah blah…… but still…

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The aerodynamic mechanism that allows for cars to follow closer in the 2022 car will also likely reduce the slipstream effect, coupled with no DRS the racing/overtaking may not improve as much as we’re expecting

A closer battle is what everyone wants to see to show drivers skills.i wanna see drivers be able to overtake and fight for positions.2022 will be a awesome season

I click on the video after I read the title, and pray while the screen is black and loading that its not published by Autosport 🙏🏼. Love ya work guys.

One thing I don't understand about the fuel is why it hasn't already changed? In Australia for the supercar series they use e85 and you can purchase it and servos as well.

I’m intrigued to see how quickly the teams can improve with the new cost cap

Honestly I feel like most fans understand the core fo the changes and are fine with them. We want more competitive racing. I feel like most complaints mostly coeme from aesthetics and other more surface level complaints.

Okay, I don't know enough about these things to really give much insight. 20 years ago I was briefly involved in a university research project investigating F1 aerodynamic stability and I have some limited wind tunnel experience. It's not going to be just a matter of downforce. Sure, it's possible that the new cars will be closer in performance than expected but it's also possible that the swings and roundabout changes will make such a prediction nearly impossible. But I'll stick my neck out and see. First of all, I believe a cleaner car will be a faster car. I fully expect these cars to have a better L/D than the current ones. The elimination of the Y250 vortex and the control endplates, not to mention the elimination of bargeboards get rid of a lot of drag. Intense vortices like that are bad for L/D, even if they are more than offset in other areas. But downforce is only useful if you can translate it into grip. The new regs eliminate a lot of suspension wizardry that has played a huge part in making sure the tyres are worked to their fullest. Now they will be virtually back to the basic spring and damper units, which means that the cars will move around a lot more, which will definitely impact their corner speed. So any extra downforce would probably be outweighed by the less effective suspension. The move to a wing car also had the effect of moving the centre of pressure forward, which will offset the now less-effective front wing and the lower profile tyres should make the handling a bit sharper. Overall, I expect the cars will probably be quicker in a straight line, probably nearly as quick through fast sections (with the exception of places like Eau Rouge when there suspension will be heavily compressed anyway) and slower through medium speed corners, which comprise the majority of todays circuits. Just my 2 cents. Blaze away!

I think the gains will be rapid. i dont know where they'll start but i'd expect a 3-5 second improvement over the season with Venturi tunnels a massive development area to increase cornering speed.

Overtaking > speed. If we get better overtaking and they are just as fast, what a real treat that would be!

Well teams will be racing either on the track and at their individual factories. they will always be developing to get an edge on their rivals and that results in, the cars getting quicker

My opinion is the first couple of seasons will depend on who has the best engineers. There are going to be so many learning curves and things to fix and improve on.