Intel to Make ARM & RISC-V Chips!!!

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Gary Explains

Gary Explains

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Intel made several major announcements recently including the launch of its Intel Foundry Services business. It will offer capacity in the U.S. and Europe, along with an IP portfolio for customers, including x86 cores as well production support for ARM and RISC-V cores.
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@bhuvaneshs.k638
@bhuvaneshs.k638 3 роки тому
They are Captialising on recent semiconductor shortages. It's a brilliant move
@ss12363
@ss12363 3 роки тому
Brilliant move 👏👌
@brentgreeff1115
@brentgreeff1115 3 роки тому
They are also "capitalising" on their massive bank balance from milking the consumer for over a decade. - not sure I want to see them bankrupt, but I cant say I am cheering them on.
@bhuvaneshs.k638
@bhuvaneshs.k638 3 роки тому
@@palashjain6748 it takes one to know one
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
What are you talking about @Palash Jain? What has royalties got to do with this? Also Arm isn't open source. Also RISC-V designs aren't open source either. But regardless, Intel doesn't get any royalties for manufacturing chips. I don't understand what you are trying to say. Did you actually watch the video?
@bhuvaneshs.k638
@bhuvaneshs.k638 3 роки тому
@@GaryExplains @Palash Jain just a guy who has no idea what he's talking about..I donno what royalties even mean in this context. It's clearly evident that intel want to generate revenue from opening Fabs to medium size fabless companies and automobile industry. This move syncing with the current semiconductor shortage is not a coincidence. It's one the main factor for this move
@yash_kambli
@yash_kambli 3 роки тому
Finally they are gonna rectified their mistake to not allowing third party (fabless companies) to access their production line. That's where fate of intel lies and achievement of tsmc and Samsung came from.
@HerrFlachpfeife
@HerrFlachpfeife 3 роки тому
AMD spun of their fabs into GlobalFoundries more than a decade ago. Has it helped them? I don't know.
@thewriteinpresident
@thewriteinpresident 3 роки тому
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@abp1400
@abp1400 3 роки тому
@@HerrFlachpfeife Yes, because they didn't have the scale or capital to maintain both cutting edge fabs and design chips. Look how much problems intel had with getting to 10nm. AMD probably would have had an even harder time of reaching that. It was better to hand off the fabbing to a specialist firm like TSMC.
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone 3 роки тому
Is GlobalFoundries still even around?
@abp1400
@abp1400 3 роки тому
@@SirFaceFone Yes, GloFlo is still around. It is owned by UAE state investment fund Mubadala. The thing is, they've shifted out of high end leading edge fabbing (think sub 10nm) and are instead focused on manufacture of specialized chips that don't require bleeding edge processes, think the vast majority of chips in any product.
@risingstarforge
@risingstarforge 3 роки тому
New Intel CEO already making big changes, I see.
@brokeandtired
@brokeandtired 3 роки тому
Well it's almost free money to let others make ARM chips on the spare capacity Intel had at its fabs
@ishrakarib
@ishrakarib 2 роки тому
Thanks to Intels new CEO :) for this big change :)
@AshrafAliS
@AshrafAliS 3 роки тому
TSMC 7nm = Intel 10nm in terms of transistor density
@silambarasanbalasubramani8577
@silambarasanbalasubramani8577 3 роки тому
Nvidia, Amd: We are Designed in USA. INTEL : We are made in USA.
@another3997
@another3997 3 роки тому
The question is whether that is a positive or negative point for Intel? I suspect the latter.
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
Who cares tho
@Zestyclose-Big3127
@Zestyclose-Big3127 3 роки тому
_sells chips which loudly say Malaysia or Costa Rica on them_
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 3 роки тому
@@tanujrana8490 "Chyna"
@crhu319
@crhu319 2 роки тому
@@another3997 the latter.
@timun4493
@timun4493 3 роки тому
altera (intel FPGA) is currently selling arm chips manufactured by intel as well as tsmc and has been for a while, in the more distant past there were the strongarm from dec and later xscale lines.
@jindodogg
@jindodogg 3 роки тому
RISC moving more and more into the server/desktop markets. I need to buy some more RAM stocks.
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
Yeah. Micron and Samsung stocks will be going up if RISC becomes mainstream.
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 роки тому
And I welcome more Risc-V and ARM. It is the "brainpower" versus power consumption that I am looking for mostly.
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
@@brostenenOh absolutely, I'm looking forward to Risc-V, but there are a few problems... Well first, we need more RAM. RISC architectures consume a ton of RAM for equivalent tasks compared to CISC and I'm already utilizing 32GB on my Ryzen 5 1600x close to max often times and I don't do rendering or anything like that. And we will see how power efficient they are once they add all the equivalent instructions to what x86-64 already has, as RISC-V and ARM still lacks a lot of equivalents.
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 роки тому
@@badass6300 We do not need the x86 instruction sets. We need to look forward. If you add more instructions, then it is not Risc any more. 😉 Anyway.... Amount of ram is of no concern as such, as long as power consumption are lowered. If it will result in more "brainpower" as a bonus, then I welcome it. We have been stuck in x86 for so many years, that it is not exciting. We need a game changer, like when the industry moved from 6502 to 680x0 and 8086/8088. (Possible 80286) Those were exciting times. And we need it again. Something that changes it all and starts a new battle of ideas and inventions. I think that will be the case, if Risc-V and ARM are going to battle head to head. X86 vs. 680x0 all over again. And my money is on Risc-V.
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
@@brostenen Again, RISC-V and ARM can't do a ton of things x86 can. And RISC came before CISC, so technically we are going back. The problem isn't CISC, the problem is that x86 is backwards compatible and has tons of legacy instructions in it. ARM-8 is barely backwards compatible with ARM-6 and pretty much incompatible with anything lower. I'm all for ARM(if Nvidia doesn't buy them) and RISC-V over x86, but I'm more so for a brand new CISC architecture. And I'm also for stronger core architectures for the desktop users/general consumers... most software people use is less than 95% parallel...
@augustobarradas
@augustobarradas 3 роки тому
Great video. Thank you for the update Gary. Very clear and informative as usual.
@ronch550
@ronch550 2 роки тому
Most semiconductor companies started out manufacturing the chips they designed. It was only in the last 20 years that, as fabs became more expensive to run, companies spun off or shut down their manufacturing facilities as they were unable to meet the economies of scale by making only their own chips. Hence the success of foundries line TSMC.
@leledumbo
@leledumbo 3 роки тому
The new CEO really knows that they won't be able to fight the world where everyone is collaborating instead of monopolizing, so there they go. I hope this is a good step for Intel.
@chrisrosenkreuz23
@chrisrosenkreuz23 3 роки тому
yes I really hope they get it together and keep up the standard, AMD is on the rise and competition is good (at least in the current paradigm, that is)
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 роки тому
Intel actually knows everything and how the market is behaving, stop talking nonsense. Intel also makes storage solutions for data centers and thenother advantage is that Intel is an American company based in the US where they make chips, also Intel owns their own foundries.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 роки тому
@@chrisrosenkreuz23 I think AMD also need their own foundries to really compete with Intel, if AMD want to remain in business they may also need to expand TSMC foundries sizes or factories.
@leledumbo
@leledumbo 3 роки тому
@@alanmay7929 well if they do, they won't change CEO and keep doing what they've been doing that puts them in the competitive disadvantage.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 роки тому
@@leledumbo i totally disagree with you, with the chip shortage happening now and with the growing automatisation of things, chip makers are going to invest more and try to have more customers to even research/improve and invest more in the manfacturing. intel already has an advantage by just owning their own fab.
@MikeNewham
@MikeNewham 3 роки тому
Certainly happy here in Ireland, extra 1,600 jobs in Leixlip plus a new 'Foundry' possibly adjacent to the existing FAB's. Place is now bigger than Sunderland's Nissan Plant!
@thomascrabtree
@thomascrabtree 3 роки тому
ARM is British, so in some sense this is just the UK outsourcing manufacturing to Ireland via an American company creaming the profits off both ends.
@LowLevelLearning
@LowLevelLearning 3 роки тому
Thanks Gary! I had no idea that Intel was interested in producing ARM chips. That seems like a really interesting move for them as a company. I guess it makes sense given how popular ARMv7 and ARMv8 is becoming. I've got lots of ARM tutorials!
@TakZ000
@TakZ000 2 роки тому
Ever heard of Intel XScale cpu? Also check their FPGA Socs
@howumighthaveanimatedthat2159
@howumighthaveanimatedthat2159 3 роки тому
This sounds like Microsoft going open source. They should get into making and supporting a RISC V better to compete against yourself.
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 3 роки тому
They lost the competition on their own design, so no point in fighting a losing battle; might as well get a piece of the ARM/RISC 5 business.
@avejst
@avejst 3 роки тому
Great decision at Intel side!! Thansks for sharing your grat content!
@Heldermaior
@Heldermaior 3 роки тому
fun fact, ESA a few years ago developed a new chip to use in satellites that was a massive step up from previous generations. 90nm lithography and a quad core instead of single core 180nm.
@abymohanan2043
@abymohanan2043 3 роки тому
Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻
@BenMeddeb
@BenMeddeb 3 роки тому
Another bit of shocking news is Intel is opening up the x86 to anyone who wants to manufacture it! The apple-ARM ripple effect
@psaunder1975
@psaunder1975 3 роки тому
Yeah probably heard crickets.. ARM is probably the future.. 🤔
@nitharsanam630
@nitharsanam630 3 роки тому
@@psaunder1975 Nothing is definite in future!
@psaunder1975
@psaunder1975 3 роки тому
@@nitharsanam630 that's true! However if you watch Engadget videos about why Apple M1 processor is so good, you see why x86 is hitting wall in optimising it compared to ARM instruction set. Unfortunately x86 is bloated with too many years of legacy add-ons. BTW I'm not an Apple fan boy, I use it Android & Windows.
@crhu319
@crhu319 2 роки тому
Too late though, and x86 is just useless.
@TakZ000
@TakZ000 2 роки тому
@@crhu319 Really? I swear I am still using x86 for my windows 10. Don't tell it to PS5 and XSX users... or else.
@Exyvia
@Exyvia 3 роки тому
Might actually be a little misinformation if you compare TSMC process, Samsung and intel as equal. The process "node" has become a commercial name for marketing purposes that indicates new generations of process technologies, without any relation to gate length, metal pitch or gate pitch. Intel 10nm is 1.5x denser than Samsung 8nm Intel 10nm is between TSMC 7nm and 7nm + Samsung 8nm is = to TSMC 10nm
@chaituchandra7339
@chaituchandra7339 3 роки тому
Bit Cell/SRAM size between nodes can be a metric for a fairer comparison
@monkeslayer-km5ho
@monkeslayer-km5ho 3 роки тому
10nm or 10nm superfin?
@trixniisama
@trixniisama 3 роки тому
You're right but I wonder : everything isn't only tied to density isn't it ? What about efficiency ?
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
@@trixniisama Efficiency breaks into 2 caregories: 1) TDP which gets better with a smaller node as there is less electrical resistance, thus it consumes less power and creates less heat providing the same computational power, 2) IPC which gets better with smarter chip designs, instruction sets and of course A.I. Processing Speed (GHz) still remains a factor but has nothing to do with efficiency, the reason we are stuck at about 5GHz is because of limitations in material (silicon). Note that using other materials we might get to 10GHz or more in 50nm nodes and practically accomplish the same result, something I expect to happen in the next decade as we are reaching the limits of currently used materials.
@noctwice
@noctwice 3 роки тому
Even if everything you mentioned is true these points are moot. TSMC has had 5nm in full production for 9 months. They are starting to produce their 3nm fabrication. The building of their 2nm foundry has already begun. Intel’s own estimate of having their 7nm foundry is more than two years away. It’s hard to put into words just how far behind Intel is in their current foundries. Intel’s 10nm process was delayed by over five years. Unless the US government comes forward with a Manhattan style effort Intel will likely never catch up.
@klim5026
@klim5026 3 роки тому
Nice explanation Gary
@ernestlane
@ernestlane 3 роки тому
Great info, thanks!
@repinger
@repinger 3 роки тому
Wow. Pointing the Gelsinger guy as a CEO was a very wise move by Intel.
@gonzajuarez4918
@gonzajuarez4918 3 роки тому
honestly i was kind of wondering when would intel open up to either manufacture or design non-intel chips. because otherwise, enclosing themselves, it really seemed like a free fall for intel. glad they took this turn, stubbornness is not a good way to end up for a company that provided so much knowledge to the tech business
@rbhtechno4173
@rbhtechno4173 3 роки тому
Finally someone who knows about technology and talking about technology ..great job. Just subscribed. Really tired of people talking about camera and technology with absolutely no clue about engineering .... just taking phones out of boxes and talking rubbish ...
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
Welcome aboard!
@namra98
@namra98 3 роки тому
Adding to that :Smaller gate size directly doesn't mean less temperature. main benefit of smaller gate size is reduction in input operating energy and lesser wastage of energy in terms of heat.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
I was talking about the end result, which is less heat. So, no not a correction.
@namra98
@namra98 3 роки тому
Was jjust bridging the gap for others... Ofcourse you know everything ❤️
@Ozzy_08x
@Ozzy_08x 3 роки тому
Given recent foundry manufacturing shortages, Intel opening theirs to to non-Intel chips like ARM and NVIDIA could help alleviate the concurrent GPU and Console hardware scalping
@iii-ei5cv
@iii-ei5cv 3 роки тому
Right. And make Intel a boatload of money
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
I would doubt that, all the newer CPUs GPUs and Socs are built on newer nodes. I can see this helping the chip shortages in the automotive industry tho (and other commodity items) I doubt it will do anything for the mainstream chip shortages
@peregrinesantos7483
@peregrinesantos7483 3 роки тому
With the new Japanese Supercomputer on ARM, ARM will take a very huge portion of the ia86 market. That includes servers and desktops not just mobile devices.
@stormcrow70
@stormcrow70 3 роки тому
Right on.
@shab-re5334
@shab-re5334 3 роки тому
finally risc-v
@sreeragrprasad
@sreeragrprasad 3 роки тому
I really wish GPUs and CPUs come back in stock after this soon...
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
I really wish that when they come back, they actually have good MSRPs, AMD and Nvidia have been selling at huge profit margins, especially Nvidia for 2-5 years now. And Intel used to sell at big profit margins until their shortages in 2017.
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
CPU foundries are like Rome, not built in a day. I don't expect the shortages to be over for at least a year. What keeps me positive though is that by then more generations of tech we can't buy will be available and thus older (2020) parts will be pretty cheap. Hopefully you can build a Zen 3 + RTX2060 for $600 total in 2023, which is still great imho.
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
Intel opening their fab to third parties will do nothing to eleviate the chip shortages tho
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
@@tanujrana8490 not true. Well true for desktop cpus and gpus, but intels 22nm is great and not used currently and soon their 14nm will not be used at capacity
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
@@badass6300 yeah i mean consumer chips CPUs GPUs. Itll ofc make the automotive chip supplies better
@taidee
@taidee 3 роки тому
Let competition begin, it will soon come to newer nodes and it will currently open up the fabs with modern fabrication capabilities. And yes, I’m subscribed Gary 😂
@AnupumPant
@AnupumPant 3 роки тому
Gary’s background is lit by EUV lights
@quantumbubbles2106
@quantumbubbles2106 3 роки тому
If it were so, you couldn't see them. 😎
@Zeta9465
@Zeta9465 3 роки тому
thanks gary
@wolfiestechbites3773
@wolfiestechbites3773 3 роки тому
You're First to my home page with the Intel.... ummmm...Intel... ;) thanks Gary
@sirgongalong
@sirgongalong 3 роки тому
It doesn't seem to address the main reason they have started to lag behind others. Their inability to produce anything below 10nm chips while others are already at 5nm and some are gearing up to mass produce 3nm.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
As I said, Intel has announced that its 7nm process is on track and that it has moved to EUV like Samsung and TSMC.
@Exyvia
@Exyvia 3 роки тому
the 14nm, 10nm or even 7nm nomenclature cannot be compared between different companies only with it's own company as each process node is defined differently. Basically comparing apples to oranges. Intel 10nm is 1.5x denser than Samsung 8nm Intel 10nm is between TSMC 7nm and 7nm + Intel 7nm is projected to be equivalent to TSMC 5nm Samsung 8nm is = to TSMC 10nm
@Tim_Small
@Tim_Small 3 роки тому
I wouldn't pay a huge amount of attention to the names of node sizes, different manufacturers processes aren't particularly comparable these days.
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 3 роки тому
@@Exyvia Exactly, everyone getting suckered into TSMCs marketing definition and then making fun of Intel like they are decades behind
@srikrishna2561
@srikrishna2561 2 роки тому
Intel is investing $100 billion on Germany for it's 4nm Fab.
@IamTheHolypumpkin
@IamTheHolypumpkin 3 роки тому
Especially the opening up of Intel foundries is really exiting. Even if Intel is currently lacking behind, I have no doubt that Intel is able to catch up again and not going down like global foundries.
@another3997
@another3997 3 роки тому
"Lagging behind". 😉
@OmDahake
@OmDahake 3 роки тому
hey Gary sir can you make a video on x86 instruction set programming on 8085 and how to run code on it as i will have to learn the instruction set of intel 8085 in school so it will be a help for me
@Tim_Small
@Tim_Small 3 роки тому
Why are they teaching you that? Seems pretty cruel to me...
@kingyogesh441
@kingyogesh441 3 роки тому
@@Tim_Small it’s not cruel for Indians lol
@joeblogs5163
@joeblogs5163 3 роки тому
Do you get salt, and vinegar with them.
@jonathangerard745
@jonathangerard745 3 роки тому
I am truly shocked... RISC - V finally goes commercial
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 3 роки тому
It won't be RISC-V, but a proprietary variant of it.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 роки тому
@@Katzelle3 that's the point of risc, do what you want.
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 3 роки тому
@@YounesLayachi Huh, the point of RISC is to take advantage of cheap memory and let machine code be written by software. But you're talking about RISC-V being an open source ISA, which should allow any hardware manufacturer to build their own CPUs compatible with the same code. If Intel is the sole proprietor their own RISC-V variant, then non-Intel chips won't be able to run Intel code.
@toddmartin7030
@toddmartin7030 3 роки тому
I believe RISC V has a permissive license. So it is in the spirit of BSD license, not in the spirit of GNU licensing. So it is a do what you want type of license, so long as you give credit where credit is due. You can choose to take advantage of a standard on RISC V, but no one is gonna hold your feet to the fire legally for not.
@BruceHoult
@BruceHoult 3 роки тому
Samsung have been offering their chip customers SiFive RISC-V cores for several years already.
@deBaer
@deBaer 3 роки тому
Intel has manufactured (and designed!) ARM chips for a quarter of a century now, starting in 1997 with the SA-1100 and continuing through the multiple generations of the XScale series.
@egidijusl9043
@egidijusl9043 3 роки тому
Great video, thanks! Could you please change the background, I felt my eyes burnt out by that UV :D
@peteratkin3788
@peteratkin3788 3 роки тому
Inevitable really, im sure it will lead to design later on.
@faustin289
@faustin289 3 роки тому
The *Asianometry* guy said something in the lines of "the xx nanometer" process in the semiconductor lingo doesn't refer to the physical distance on the actual chip.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
No, it doesn't. I have covered that in several other videos. I have a video about Qualcomm and 5nm chips, I go deeper into the whole "nm" thing there.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 3 роки тому
Intel has an ARM architecture license. Years ago they were designing ARM processors. Don't know if they still do or not.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
Yes, it has an ARMv6 license. I cover that in my Arm vs Intel video.
@martinhawes5647
@martinhawes5647 3 роки тому
v6 won’t cut it with v9 on the way.
@TakZ000
@TakZ000 2 роки тому
XScale. And they are producing ARM SOCS at 10nm for the FPGA.
@Harish2923
@Harish2923 3 роки тому
I am guessing that mediatek will be fabbing some of their products at intel since they release a lot of products in old process node's and mediatek and intel has a really good relationship.
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 3 роки тому
I'd really like to see hobbyists and small organizations be able to roll their own ASICs in an economical way, kind of like PCBs have become now. It would be awesome if you could send intel or someone a verilog file and say "I want a dozen" for less than a million dollars. Especially if you can settle for older tech and don't need the latest 7nm or 5nm size. Will this ever happen?
@TorbjrnViemNess
@TorbjrnViemNess 2 роки тому
Yes, though you might need to do a bit more work than just the verilog file. For example this program even lets you do it for free if your design is open source and you get selected: www.skywatertechnology.com/mpw/open-source-mpw-program/ Other fabs also run MPW (Multi Part Wafer) programs which are typically much cheaper than paying for your own masks and wafers to make chips.
@bluecpp2059
@bluecpp2059 2 роки тому
I love your reaction! 😂😱
@tld8102
@tld8102 3 роки тому
On 14nm? So this is gonna help with the chip shortages? Like for automotive manufacturers?
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
Yep that's what I was thinking. People shouting that this will solve everything. All that'll happen is some automotive chips will move to intel fabs and all of intel manufacturing will move to tsmc, could potentially worsen the situation by putting more pressure on the 7nm fabs
@CrippleX89
@CrippleX89 3 роки тому
It’s the only way forward really. I think they realize very well that they don’t have the grip on the computer market that they used to have, there were never as many viable mass market non-x86(-64) options and plans as there are now.
@jessicaarverne1181
@jessicaarverne1181 3 роки тому
Hopefully it's not too late for Intel. X64 cores are lagging behind ARM cores. They may end up being replaced by ARM cores running X64 code through emulation.
@IrfanKhan1
@IrfanKhan1 3 роки тому
Why no new videos of Speed Test G??!
@someoneyouneverknow7529
@someoneyouneverknow7529 3 роки тому
I thought they are finally able to manufacture 10nm chips
@user136002
@user136002 3 роки тому
The "nm" claimed for modern processors has little to do with actual transistor density (it hasn't for at least 20 years). Intel's 10nm process is actually slightly denser than TSMC's 7nm and both companies have suggested switching to an objective metric rather than "nm".
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 роки тому
Intel's fab foundries seem to be reliable so having another manufacturing option is always good for competition. I suspect that this is more a long-term business model as I cannot imagine Intel's phone is ringing off the hook at the moment! A logical step by Intel and I suspect the real reason is more to do with demand nose-diving so they have lots of spare capacity and any business is worth having rather than expensive foundries sitting idle? Better late than never but I feel that Intel are in a downward spiral and face a tough task reversing that motion.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 роки тому
Maybe the biggest demand is gonna come from US companies looking for production in the US instead of China ?
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
@@autohmae not only US companies. Huawei and lots of other Chinese brands can get back into the US market using Intel's fab... it is trully a brilliant move and about time it happened.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 роки тому
@@rallisf1 My guess is you can't get rid of the the restrictions placed on those companies this way. As they weren't even allowed use US tech. companies. So I don't see using Intel fab. in the US any different.
@hdwblade
@hdwblade 3 роки тому
Did you upgrade your setup recently? Looks crispy clean!
@voice5sur5
@voice5sur5 3 роки тому
@@martinhaxhimusa407 and you're toxic.
@MJ-uk6lu
@MJ-uk6lu 3 роки тому
It's not even 4K
@hdwblade
@hdwblade 3 роки тому
@@MJ-uk6lu that's a crispy 1080p!
@MJ-uk6lu
@MJ-uk6lu 3 роки тому
@@hdwblade Not really. LTT had way sharper 1080p videos in like 2014 or so.
@hdwblade
@hdwblade 3 роки тому
@@MJ-uk6lu kay. 🤣
@forthehomies7043
@forthehomies7043 3 роки тому
You're a cool dude Gary!
@FahadAyaz
@FahadAyaz 3 роки тому
You're a cool Gary, dude!
@Flybyhacker
@Flybyhacker 3 роки тому
I guess other architecture order will be built at the 14nm plant. They can't just ditch 14nm after years and years of milking fine-tuning nodes to stay afloat. Just another way to recover development cost and Intel safely transition to 7nm while the 14nm plant running on capacity with external order.
@2paulstacey
@2paulstacey 3 роки тому
I am surprised you didn't mention xscale.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
I have covered that in several other videos including my Arm Vs Intel video.
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 3 роки тому
Competition is always good for business!
@arubaga
@arubaga 3 роки тому
Intel jumping into RISC-V could potentially re-coin security defects it was so famous for.
@whereispie
@whereispie 3 роки тому
Thanks ❤️
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
You're welcome 😊
@walkinmn
@walkinmn 3 роки тому
Maybe I'm wrong but this looks to me that they're expecting for Apple silicon to be a big hit and maybe companies like Qualcomm and Samsung, taking a big part of the PC market with improved ARM based cpu's to compete with Apple's (maybe Apple could manufacture with them too) so making ARM chips could explode even more and because they can't compete on the designs right now, they're going for the next best thing.
@PrinceWesterburg
@PrinceWesterburg 3 роки тому
They didn't announce that, there as a move by management to offer that to Apple
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 3 роки тому
Risc-V is for the industrial market. This will do nothing for the consumer retail market. Intel will make a lot of money but it will do nothing to alleviate the chip shortages in the retail market.
@mega1mind608
@mega1mind608 3 роки тому
Intel Elkhart Lake CPU already has ARM Cortex-M7 inside.
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 3 роки тому
About time... demand is outstripping supply in many areas.
@sgodsellify
@sgodsellify 3 роки тому
The latest Raspberry Pi 4's are manufactured with 28 nm. So if the Raspberry Pi foundation used Intel's manufacturing plants, then they could build a Raspberry Pi with 10 nm. Many Risc-V are not even using 14 nm. So it could be a win for a lot of companies even at 14 or 10 nm. Plus Intel is suppose to get to 7 nm by years end, or maybe beginning 2022. So they still have a good plant for lots of chips.
@Harish2923
@Harish2923 3 роки тому
I am guessing that Intel's 7nm node will be reserved only for ponte vecchio and other products like grand ridge until 2023.
@monkeslayer-km5ho
@monkeslayer-km5ho 3 роки тому
Imagine pi+RISC v/ARM with powerful gpu+7nm+5w tdp Otw the custom handheld gaming device
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
It all comes down to the price. Older nodes usually have less demand, thus they are cheap but there is always a point when it's not worth it any more and gets retired. Also, bigger node means less cpus per waffer but also less defective ones. The Pi was never meant to be fast, it's meant to be cheap and extensible.
@BruceHoult
@BruceHoult 3 роки тому
I know of RISC-V cores made in 180 nm and 7 nm and everything in between.
@evenaicantfigurethisout
@evenaicantfigurethisout 3 роки тому
does this mean hackintoshing will be back?
@mas921
@mas921 3 роки тому
for years intel had had the best lithography, hope this helps with the current chip shortage situation
@elitedeciel
@elitedeciel 3 роки тому
Kinda worried about other smaller companies trying to popularize risc-v. But this gas an exciting news
@ihl0700677525
@ihl0700677525 3 роки тому
Good move.
@swaggitypigfig8413
@swaggitypigfig8413 3 роки тому
Interesting move. 🤔
@thebrightstar3634
@thebrightstar3634 3 роки тому
I have heard 10nm intel same lvl 7nm tsmc So a big number of nm it doesn't appear to be lack at all ! Not yet
@DesignTechie
@DesignTechie 3 роки тому
Intel Qualcomm arm chips omg that’s the weirdest thing I’ve had to think of il a while
@kdog8787
@kdog8787 3 роки тому
Apparently Intel will also offer to build x86 chips for other companies.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
Yes, the bit about Intel offering a portfolio of x86 IP is very interesting, but yet still unclear exactly what it means. I have opted not to speculate at this time. When more info comes to light I will probably do a follow-up video.
@chillidog8726
@chillidog8726 3 роки тому
Im kind of waiting for the AMD ARM chip that has been in development for some time now but probably still years away since its not a focus for them
@moRaaOTAKU
@moRaaOTAKU 3 роки тому
Amd is working with samsung on mobile graphics so theres work being done
@TakZ000
@TakZ000 2 роки тому
There is an ARM cpu inside Ryzen. But yeah, they shelved K12.
@zetaconvex1987
@zetaconvex1987 3 роки тому
Maybe Intel can develop its own IP for RISC-V and start encroaching into ARM space. It seems that Intel has seen the future, and it's likely to involve at least a little ARM/RISC-V.
@TorbjrnViemNess
@TorbjrnViemNess 2 роки тому
They can (and probably already have, at least some internal experiments just for fun/research) - that's the beauty of an open ISA! :D
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 3 роки тому
"Shock announcement"? Why? It's not even the first time.
@badass6300
@badass6300 3 роки тому
They should also design some.
@dcphillips1991
@dcphillips1991 3 роки тому
It bewilders me that it has taken Intel so long to open up their fabs to external companies.
@dakrontu
@dakrontu 3 роки тому
Something unique that Intel could do is produce a *hybrid CPU* which has both X64 and ARM64 cores. (It would require cooperation from Microsoft and Google to make it useful.) (Windows would need to become capable of *heterogeneous operation* to make this work.) It would solve the problem of ARM-based Windows devices not necessarily executing X64 code efficiently.
@smile768
@smile768 3 роки тому
Good bit of lateral thinking by Intel. Makes sense to put the capability they already have to good use.
@psaunder1975
@psaunder1975 3 роки тому
Don't think they had much choice.. Reality was smacking them in the face.
@scroopynooperz9051
@scroopynooperz9051 3 роки тому
The idiots should have done this long ago 🤣
@craiga7652
@craiga7652 3 роки тому
@@psaunder1975 Yes you're right, but apparently it took a new CEO to figure that out. He's got a big job ahead of him but he's off to a good start. Obviously a lot more competent than the previous CEO. It will be interesting to see if he can come up with some more smart moves to follow up this one.
@JohnnieHougaardNielsen
@JohnnieHougaardNielsen 3 роки тому
Assuming that the Intel foundry business can gain a notable market share, this move could also provide a cash flow for research and manufacturing to avoid the lower income opportunities from the Intel CPU part of the chip market leading to Intel falling further and further behind TSMC and possibly Samsung. And all of these may have to compete with "China Inc." if they manage to create a credible chip manufacturing sector.
@smoofles
@smoofles 3 роки тому
Seems also like Gelsinger is, effectively, showing the CPU/GPU teams that they will have to be competitive with their designs and that the "but but process" blame shifting won't fly. I wouldn't be surprised if that translated into a move away from x86, either, as that was just as much a shackle around Intel's leg as the process shenanigans were. It will be quite interesting to see what pecking order Qualcomm's Nuvia acquisition will create in 2022. Will it be Apple ARM > Qualcomm ARM > Intel ARM/RISC-V? And where will AMD's efforts slot in? And will we ever find out what Jim Keller's role was, and will it be made into a minisiries on Netflix or just a romantic movie on Hallmark?
@srikrishna2561
@srikrishna2561 2 роки тому
What about Nvidia ???
@kamalnathkanthimathinathan1473
@kamalnathkanthimathinathan1473 3 роки тому
It's about time they do what's overdue for a decade or so...
@soravulpis96
@soravulpis96 3 роки тому
Good move for Intel as there’s tons of customers for chips who don’t want/need the latest nodes. The kind who are happy with more mature 22, 35nm or even larger transistors.
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
I can see the automotive industry moving to intel, along with some commodity manufacturers
@flashcorp76
@flashcorp76 3 роки тому
So it will be ARM Inside Intel ! 😊
@caseroj6020
@caseroj6020 3 роки тому
It's probably the smartest move Intel has ever made. The next thing they need to do is abandon the legacy x86 ISA and design CPU's that are not constrained by legacy technology. The extreme complexity of CISC architectures coupled with the fact that they retain instructions which are 30-40 years old by now has to be the primary reason their product launches are always delayed or otherwise plagued by problems. Throw out the old instructions that run software nobody has anymore and use the reclaimed chip real estate to improve the efficiency of the products.
@verntigo
@verntigo 3 роки тому
I don't understand what it is they need to produce RISC-V beyond supporting an RTL flow. That should be a given for a commercial foundry. Indeed, they should support several. But, maybe, they're implying they will support an open source flow like yosys.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
That is the whole point, it wasn't "a given" when Intel tried to open its foundry services last time. This time it had to be explicit about what it was offering.
@swwei
@swwei 3 роки тому
Intel once rejected the proposal in investing TSMC, one of the largest IC foundry service companies in the world, according to Morris Chang, the founder of TSMC. Andy Grove would never dream of this date.
@SudeepKS
@SudeepKS 3 роки тому
This can lead to new designs an x86 core with multiple new thirdparty IP chips!
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
Not really, those IPs are generally limited by market (e.g. only industrial use) or design (e.g. 2 generations behind). Also a CPU is more than its core design: i/o, cache, A.I. accelerators etc are just as important and aren't easy to design either.
@SudeepKS
@SudeepKS 3 роки тому
@@rallisf1 yea so we can have a x86 core with an au accelerator not from.intel but say amazon and graphics from say nividia and have a hybrid chip ... And this can be customised as per the customer requirements Say for example amazon wants it's accelerators with x86 servers
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
@@SudeepKS if you're talking about amazon or microsoft yeah, but they already do that. They didn't wait for Intel to go full public. The average Joe Inc can't afford a custom design anyway and if they do they'll probably go with ASIC or RISC-V, or even ARM. x86 is too complicated for most applications.
@nyambe
@nyambe 3 роки тому
Could x86 ever be able to compete with Apple silicon performance per watt?
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
It doesn't really need to tho🤔 Apple silicon isn't coming to the open market anytime soon. Also, the comparisons are somewhat blown out of proportion imo considering that these are comparisons across architectures
@tanujrana8490
@tanujrana8490 3 роки тому
And if it comes to performance per watt, riscV blown everything out of the water, even apple silicon
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 3 роки тому
@@tanujrana8490 RiscV looks a lot like MIPS to me, that's quite an old design
@bojangbg
@bojangbg 3 роки тому
And they think apple has not seen that comming
@williamdacic
@williamdacic 3 роки тому
I keep hearing manafacturing.
@markhaus
@markhaus 3 роки тому
Was only a matter of time really, if they didn't plan for other architectures in the future they'd eventually be in big trouble
@abdullahzafar4401
@abdullahzafar4401 3 роки тому
Sometimes they'll just use each other 🤔
@DrAdityaReddy
@DrAdityaReddy 3 роки тому
I'm glad intel is adapting and not stubborn like nokia was
@RiXFortuna
@RiXFortuna 2 роки тому
It would be foolish to be stuck in the past. ARM and RISC looked way better since the beginning. I don’t know why it took so long
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 роки тому
I am really looking forward to mainstream Risc-V and Arm machines. I really do not care for the Windows world, and what is going on there, as I am a Linux user. I think it will be so cool to own a Risc-V based Linux workstation for all my productivity need's.
@vasileceteras
@vasileceteras 3 роки тому
They will also offer x86 core IP to customers, and I think that is even bigger.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 3 роки тому
True, the nugget about Intel offering a portfolio of x86 IP is very interesting, but yet still unclear exactly what it means. I have opted not to speculate at this time. When more info comes to light I will probably do a follow-up video.
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 3 роки тому
AMD is already offering their IP. We see it in gaming consoles, industrial systems, even government computers (totally not pointing to China or Russia...). But in most cases those contrracts are limited to 2 generations behind. That means, don't expect to see rebranded Intel cpus hitting the market, at least not the one's you would like to buy. Will Intel be making a big difference by following suit? Not really, but desperate times call for desperate measures...
@SpencerHHO
@SpencerHHO 3 роки тому
@@rallisf1 AMD can't licence X86 directly as that's Intel's IP they can licence high level designs like how they licenced Zen plus cores to a Chinese company a while ago but they cannot licence the X86ISA. It's an interesting development as AMD and Intel cross licence IP notice how Intel CPUs say AMD64? AMD has an indefinite licence of X86 due to interesting circumstances where AMD can always use the ISA but it's not their intellectual property. What I don't know is what the limits on Intel are when it comes to AMD64 they might not be able to license that out without AMD getting on board too. It is possible that AMD would support such moves as both AMD and Intel have an interest in maintaining X86 dominance. AMD is less dependant on X86 as they have an ARM licence and use ARM IP in their products.
@ytc6227
@ytc6227 3 роки тому
Excited to see Intel making big moves on fabrication. But they're just now planning to bring in Extreme Ultra Violet tech, it feels like Intel is far behind TSMC and Samsung in terms of fab techlogy? What caused this huge mis-step?
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