Nvidia is In REALLY Big Trouble - AMD DESTROYS RTX
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2 роки томуNvidia is In REALLY Big Trouble - AMD DESTROYS RTX
AMD finally unveiled their DLSS competitor Fidelity FX Super Resolution or FSR for short, and to the surprise of many it has exceeded our expectations. The technology at 4K looks nearly as good as DLSS 2.0, and it also doesn't get the same smearing issue that DLSS has leading to a great alternative to Nvidia's main buying point for RTX GPUs.
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@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
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@UPsideDOWNworld321 2 роки тому
your stupid intro is going to throw out your back, chiropractor soon to come! You have been warned.
@god8348 2 роки тому
You can’t use h.265 with amd? That’s fucking garbage lol
@AwankO 2 роки тому
Download a third-party codec problem solved.
@AwankO 2 роки тому
I haven't used neither of those technologies, from what I know from tech UKpostsrs, AMD, and Nvidia news, I have a preference towards Fsr. However it is dependent on developers implementing it. That part right there, I don't have too much confidence that will happen.
@remasteredretropcgames3312 2 роки тому
Use my mods.
@xXFaTaLBMHXx 2 роки тому
No one destroys anyone if I cant buy either company's product.
@garryarganis5801 2 роки тому
you can , there are alot of cards in stock , they are just 2x more than msrp.
@grantramsey3879 2 роки тому
@@garryarganis5801 yep, just type in "radeon rx 6000 series" in newegg and almost all aib cards are in stock
@xXFaTaLBMHXx 2 роки тому
@@garryarganis5801 No sir. Scalpers do not count. I want to walk into best buy and grab a card off the shelf.
@JPresleyCPA 2 роки тому
The "stealth" war that AMD is waging is via consoles and recently, FSR. Yes, nvidia is dominating the PC GPU market (although you could argue a sizeable chunk of that is crypto-focused rather than gaming), but between the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S there have been close to 14 million AMD equipped GPUs sold. The reason this matters is when game developers want to use their resources efficiently, they want to cast the widest net with the least amount of work. In this case, AMD is both winning marketshare from a gaming perspective (via consoles), and eliminating the value of nvidia's RT cores (via FSR impacting many more products). Developers will end up not supporting things like DLSS, and instead gravitate towards open standards like AMD's FSR, which impact a much larger population of products in the tens and maybe hundreds of millions of units rather than a few million very high end RTX products. This is why nvidia is in trouble.
@panzerfan 2 роки тому
oh Bob, do you even have a 1060?
@faintestcarpet 2 роки тому
AMD Destroys RTX? These titles are getting out of control.
@DnWarrior 2 роки тому
I used to watch him, but now i m hesitating, this title is pure garbage and he just want us to click on it...
@conmannicknameleroy3493 2 роки тому
Yea the title should be “AMD Levels The Playingfield.”
@ptoughneigh9355 2 роки тому
This is click bait AF. I really hate this kind of title.
@AbramSJA 2 роки тому
AMD intentionally allowed FSR to work on all hardware to gimp adoption of DLSS and get rid of DLSS as a selling point.
@CRAZYHORSE19682003 2 роки тому
They are going to do to DLSS what DX-12 did to Mantel.
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Mantel became Vulkan basically
@davidlazarus67 2 роки тому
DLSS was designed to lock AMD out of the consumer gamer market. So FSR is a good alternative.
@cydia11centra 2 роки тому
no that's not gonna happen. Nvidia got the money to entice the developers to implement it not to mention the free marketing their game would get from Nvidia if they did. Also of how easy it is to get implemented, heard it was as easy as a check slot in unreal
@CRAZYHORSE19682003 2 роки тому
@@cydia11centra Respectfully I disagree. Developers are going to follow the path of least resistance. If implementing FSR will boost performance on both AMD and Nvidia cards why would they bother spending time and resources adding DLSS support to a game when only about 10% of the market can even use it. Nvidia will have to pay developers which they won't do because DLSS was a huge trump card for them that AMD just took away. Just look at Physix, Nvidia bought the company and made it proprietary so most developers use a software version or Havock so it runns on all systems not just Nvidia.
@garbuckle3000 2 роки тому
I feel FSR will become the new standard, regardless of whether DLSS is better. Having the consoles on board is big for AMD, but it comes down to the game devs. They need to get FSR into all their games, STAT. Luckily, the word is that it's easy enough to implement. FSR was designed for my use-case. I have a RX 5700 and a 4k TV. I have to turn settings down to achieve 60 FPS, but now I'll be able to get my eye-candy and eat it, too ;)
@UPsideDOWNworld321 2 роки тому
dlss is trash ,, it clears up stuff that should not be cleared up
@cretene1 2 роки тому
and wait till nvidia start bribeing devs to use there dlls2 . just wait . i called it. just wait
@Mustang1984 2 роки тому
Yea for me personally the ONLY reason I was going to go Nvidia when cards become avail closer to msrp was because of DLSS. I've never gone AMD but now they are on par with Nvid and cheaper and I'm certainly no fanboy.
@juzujuzu4555 2 роки тому
Nvidia's stronghold on tech tubers and influencers are clear as day. DLSS truly has lots of problems, especially with scattering light RT. Lots of noise on some parts, too cleared image on another. The best implementations are good, but most games are not suitable with DLSS. As a black box proprietary standard is should die. The only reason it even exists is to justify people forced to pay lots of extra for tensor cores they don't need. This helps Nvidia as they do not need to develop more architectures, and also it helps to differentiate against competition. Though I hope there would be open standard for machine learning based upscaling. FSR 2.0 might deliver something like that. If there would be common API for that, so that all vendors could then build their own upsampling tech and continue to update that on the fly, but game devs would only have to support that one API, then I'm all for allowing competition to truly improve on the tech. Though even just the FSR 1.0 can get better. That's the beauty of open source. Not that I expect anything super amazing improvements as the ultra quality was already pretty amazing, but this field of spacial upscaling is improving still constantly, so this certainly isn't the limit of that tech.
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
@@cretene1 they can bribe all they want but how will that help consoles?
@varanidguy 2 роки тому
Here's a reason to be excited for FSR: next gen consoles are AMD. If it comes to the consoles, that would be a pretty significant boon.
@squeebbb 2 роки тому
Yay now technically games will run in 4k at a decent frame rate (not native 4k) and it won't be false advertisement! Woohoo!
@varanidguy 2 роки тому
@@squeebbb lol PCMR is a lie
@dan88rx7turbo22 2 роки тому
Meh it won’t be what the pc driver will accomplish , I’m not even certain that ps and Xbox has driver updates for the gpu ive never seen anyone show any type of graphics driver update. I’m going to assume the console version will be highly Limited
@varanidguy 2 роки тому
@@dan88rx7turbo22 That's exactly part of what's in the system updates, though...
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
@@varanidguy there's a reason it's the mustard race.
@JETFOURLITRE 2 роки тому
AMD plays a long game of chess!
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
💯
@hodgindaylon 2 роки тому
@Omar Hamdan ?
@JETFOURLITRE 2 роки тому
@Omar Hamdan how so? They played a long game of chess with Intel and schooled them with Zen.
@JETFOURLITRE 2 роки тому
@Omar Hamdan all good brother
@reinhardtwilhelm5415 2 роки тому
Eh, AMD’s been getting increasingly anti-consumer recently. Call me when the 6600 and 6500 series are out, or when the Ryzen 5 5600 actually exists.
@federicoalcala9566 2 роки тому
DLSS produces an overall superior picture due to how it works but it requires a lot of dev time and $ to implement. FSR is likely to win adoption because it is the only option for consoles and will pretty much already be included when devs port their games over to the PC market.
@darinsteele7091 2 роки тому
superior is a massive word, it is not a superior change from fsr lol. it's similar but of course fsr is worse, but saying superior is out of the question.
@arenzricodexd4409 2 роки тому
DLSS require a lot of work but that's not on game developer side. On game developer side now they have DLSS plugin. One of developer that use UE4 (i forget the name of their games) said that with DLSS plugin can be done without nvidia help. Nvidia aim most likely to provide this similar plugin on all game so any game that build those engine can use DLSS without the need to add them on individual basis. The heavy work on DLSS will be all done by nvidia.
@federicoalcala9566 2 роки тому
@@darinsteele7091 If FSR is worse then DLSS how is saying DLSS is overall better out of the question? Superior is a synonym of better.
@federicoalcala9566 2 роки тому
@@arenzricodexd4409 As far as I know, DLSS uses machine learning and requires the devs to feed it a lot of high resolution images of the game. I honestly don't know how long that takes but it's obviously longer than the few hours to 1 day it takes to implement FSR.
@arenzricodexd4409 2 роки тому
@@federicoalcala9566 that is issue on DLSS 1 which nvidia get rid of with DLSS2. All the heavy lifting on DLSS are done by nvidia. All they need to do is to wait for nvidia to finish the training and wait for the plugin to be available. Once the plugin is a available to particular engine they can use DLSS on any game made on the engine.
@blastermathz 2 роки тому
I feel like we need to wait until fsr is in games people actually play
@methox7gaming46 2 роки тому
Nvidia didn't get destroyed by this, they are getting carried, FSR on my 3090 is giving me 4k @ 120-130 fps on Godfall Epic settings.
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
Haha true. It's a godsend for all gamers.
@methox7gaming46 2 роки тому
@@GraphicallyChallenged Yess!!! I can't wait to enable it on all other games, won't be long before every developer jumps in on this 😁😁
@jose121624 2 роки тому
@@methox7gaming46 It will make it easy for developers to adapt, here the same thing will happen as FreeSync and G-Sync
@dvking131 2 роки тому
thats totaly true. FSR on my 3090 is bad ass.
@serrethindustries9468 2 роки тому
That's the whole point. AMD isn't trying to kill Nvidia, they're trying to make DLSS irrelevant, and this is probably going to do exactly that.
@ycageLehT 2 роки тому
FSR is impressive, will work on consoles and iGPUs too.
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
@Yeltnerb 1 Are you kidding? Devs will target where the money is.. the money is in consoles.. Consoles is dominated by AMD so FSR will be standard on all games which will be on consoles... Which will be most.
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
@Yeltnerb 1 in the scheme of things DLSS is proprietary and will not work on unsupported hardware. Most devices do not support it. It's not a technology that will be worthwhile adopting if a similar open source alternative is available which will work on all hardware and consoles.. it might not be as high quality but who cares when something is just as good, easier to adopt, works in all deviced and solves the same problem? It will get to a point where FSR will be default on all games as an option and DLSS will only be on a handful
@icemanchambers1207 2 роки тому
@Yeltnerb 1 Don't you know that the Consoles use AMD Hardware? AMD controls Consoles. They can do whatever they want
@Fishybpp 2 роки тому
@Yeltnerb 1 fsr supports more hardware and is in its first generation, dlss v1 was not great plus from a development standpoint fsr is where the money is it's much easier to implement and most consoles will support it another thing about dlss that isn't talked about is it's latency I rather have slightly worse quality than higher latency cause that shiz is the devil In the future I can see both systems coexisting because they both work but now dlss can't be used as a selling point which was the main reason for fsr to exist in the first place
@conmannicknameleroy3493 2 роки тому
FSR and diss don't work well or at all in those resolutions that's why all the benchmarks have 4k upsampling there isn't enough information at 720p and 1080p for the AI to work with so the picture isn't blurry as all hell. So it won't really work on low end hardware. In the future it might but igpus are booming more impressive anyways.
@TechRIP 2 роки тому
Well, reports are coming in that DLSS 2.2 should be launched in a month or so. And they're saying it should fix ghosting issues. But, FSR's first iteration is fantastic. Can't wait to see where it goes plus Lumen from UE5.
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
Yeah, there's no doubt it'll improve as it's open source. I look forward to seeing where it goes.
@Jonalius 2 роки тому
Now all we need is GPUs to fall back to msrp, which should happen by october
@xxxmrhankixxx 2 роки тому
fingers crossed bruh
@AwankO 2 роки тому
Too optimistic, how about October next year 😅.
@shadowr2d2 2 роки тому
By Christmas 🎄time they may be..? A lot more closer to msrp..
@Jonalius 2 роки тому
@@AwankO it wouldn’t be entirely out of the realm of possibility… however if RDNA 3, RTX 4000 ampere next, AND Intel DG2/DG3 continue to have massive shortages, then the PC gaming era will come to an end, and I, among many others, will have switched to Apple fully by then
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
Sorry buddy.. won't happen
@miyagiryota9238 2 роки тому
About time!
@MirelRC 2 роки тому
My GTX 750 ti works with FSR. I've tested on Rift Breaker. In few minutes I will test Terminator.
@fahdali7012 2 роки тому
how was it?
@IBRAHIM-gs6mb 2 роки тому
No way man! i thought it worked for 10 Series above Cards!
@fahdali7012 2 роки тому
@@IBRAHIM-gs6mb if a gpu can run the game. Then it can run fsr.
@IBRAHIM-gs6mb 2 роки тому
@@fahdali7012 Yea man Thats the whole point 750TI doesnt Support DX12 Games If it can run a game then maybe FSR too
@fahdali7012 2 роки тому
@@IBRAHIM-gs6mb 700 series has no directx 12? Lucky me i was gonna buy one before getting my rx580
@FakeLibra 2 роки тому
When will we be able to buy gpus at reasonable prices?
@hugoc.robles156 2 роки тому
Wait six months
@mariospanayiotou6644 2 роки тому
@@hugoc.robles156 maybe even less. I see a much higher availability on retail stores, some extreme prices but some much lower than 2 weeks ago. But still, that means stores are filling with gpus and soon scalpers will be irrelevant and prices will drop in order to sell.
@HBKCommish 2 роки тому
Probably around Fall. But don't bother asking this guy. Because whatever he tells you, his answer is most likely to change by tomorrow. The guy is so back and forth with his info. Just a UKposts clickbater.
@wwjnz9263 2 роки тому
Interesting. Will FSR work on existing titles, or will this just be for future titles?
@MrPangahas 2 роки тому
they have games like dota2 on the upcoming games that support fsr.so yeah its just a matter of game studios implementing it for both current and future games.
@MrGamezWatch 2 роки тому
FSR will be the standard on consoles and pc for all gpu including nvidia gpu :)
@memeplayer1923 2 роки тому
And even Apple Mac Pros with Radeon graphics. FSR on Final Cut Pro anyone?
@jegeroel 2 роки тому
The best thing about FSR other than being an open standard is that UI elements are rendered separately at native resolution. It's not much better than normal upscaling being spatial upscaling + a sharpness filter. As for consoles, i don't think it will replace the best in-house solutions.
@Street_Cyberman 2 роки тому
Is it possible to use DLSS and FSR at the time in order to win even more fps?
@dvking131 2 роки тому
it is possible hello 250 fps
@Street_Cyberman 2 роки тому
@@dvking131 Can't wait to DLSS an FSRed image xD
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
@@dvking131 something about that sounds very wrong... Especially to the possible image quality issues you may introduce or the possible performance issues that get caused.
@jsimmons9969 2 роки тому
I played Terminator at 1440p with fsr in balanced mode. I couldn't notice any difference from the native image.
@bigben9056 2 роки тому
bc your blind
@jsimmons9969 2 роки тому
@@bigben9056 Nah i just never pause my game and zoom in 4x.
@jerededmons4313 2 роки тому
But it's added per game/program. So simply turning it on does nothing? Unless it's one of very few supported
@cydia11centra 2 роки тому
you can't "turn it on" if it wasn't implemented to begin with
@JuanAcosta-gp4tm 2 роки тому
Quick question… so If I buy an RTX that means I’ll have FSR and DLSS… however if I buy the AMD gpu I’ll only have FSR correct? 🧐
@bjarteoliversenloken5416 2 роки тому
Correct
@keisaboru1155 2 роки тому
i'm close to buying a new gpu since the prices in germany actually dropped about 120 % ;D . well still expensive ;D , you can use fsr and then use the reshade oil paint to restore quality . works well with every comic style game :D
@JustSayingJS 2 роки тому
Explain? How do u add the reshade?
@keisaboru1155 2 роки тому
@@JustSayingJS reshade is added through injection . its a overlay based tool . site is https : // reshade . me start the exe, chose your game , google how to install if you dont know, and ur good to go , then experiment a few days and you will get some stunning results . i made 1 video about it but its just a test , you can look at my steam post for a reference https :// steamcommunity .com / sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2523652917
@StephaneGman 2 роки тому
What if you take something that was DLSS'd and FSR it?
@johnhenderson7285 2 роки тому
It works with Maxwell as well. I have an rx 580 so I will test but Tim at hardware unboxed tested an rx 570 4gb card in his review. I will also test with my r9 fury since it is from the same time period of Maxwell. But technically it should work with any DirectX 11 GPU since FSR requires DirectX 11 capable GPU minimum.
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
Someone actually used their GTX 750 ti and it worked. Interesting that it even worked with a 700 series card.
@Jolbulka 2 роки тому
I have swapped my 5600xt to 3060 and oh boy I have so many silly situations with 'g-sync compatible' displays. I would gladly swap for 6700xt
@kylek29 2 роки тому
I think FSR has a way to go to match DLSS 2+ (there's a good keynote on the tech). It lacks the temporal motion vector elements. Also, DLSS 2 doesn't have as many hurdles as DLSS 1 to implement because they removed the training requirement .. it's a generalized model now. That makes it way easier to integrate for game developers, so there's not much of an advantage to FSR there either. Going to come down to who the studios partner with (or who Nvidia bribes). FSR also has the issue doing subpixel scale ratios (e.g. 1.3, 1.5, 1.7, 2.0), that can introduce blur because you're trying to approximate a pixel (2.0 would be the recommended one, as it keeps 1:1 mapping). I personally hope AMD evolves FSR some more, competition is good.
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
I'll be honest, if FSR as it is came out when DLSS 1.0 was out, this would've been seen as a huge win for AMD. Right now though? You're right, Nvidia is still very much in the lead and much easier to work with than they were before. I can see games actually featuring both technologies coming out. Especially since it's helpful to gamers overall to feature both.
@peterpan1668 2 роки тому
Imma go team red for this..looks promising😌
@snowball1792 2 роки тому
Isn't it a win win for 30 series users ? we can use DLSS on some games and FSR on other games ?
@kidwajagstang 2 роки тому
Since dlss requires a nvidia 3000 series GPU while FSR can be used with, well most anything else from the last few years, FSR is highly likely going to be the most chosen option. Also, if it really can be implemented so easily, we are likely going to see it as an added mod into older titles as well even if the developers don’t actually add it officially.
@brandoncampbell6027 2 роки тому
Do you think fsr will come to the new xbox series and PS5?
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
Yes. Definitely on the XSX.
@brandoncampbell6027 2 роки тому
I wonder when??
@kraqd 2 роки тому
I think the only thing Nvidia still has over AMD is when steaminf that have the nvec encoder.
@whyismynametaken123 2 роки тому
Do the new AMD cards push better workbench numbers? Like rendering in Blender, etc...
@kraqd 2 роки тому
@@whyismynametaken123 I don’t know cause I don’t do that but I do stream and the AMD card sometimes lags. Cause you either use your CPU or GPU. Keep in mind I’m streaming from a 5600xt
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
Not sure if it matters.. moved from a 3070 to a 6900xt and found streaming was improved on my 5800x
@kraqd 2 роки тому
@@coolhand4598 that’s also a stronger card.
@coolhand4598 2 роки тому
@@kraqd I guess.. but uncertain if there is an advantage with the encoder
@nirmalkrish4113 2 роки тому
the speed at which he turned, made the world spin 1 second faster.
@Blastros01 2 роки тому
I have seen the image quality and I'm going to disagree on FSR looking as good as DLSS 2.0 but just the methods of implementing DLSS and the fact it can't be used on consoles means that FSR is likely to be the widespread standard. This gen it looks like Nvidea implements a graphical rendering technique with their cards and AMD actually makes it usable on more than 20 game releases
@Awakened2001 2 роки тому
if FSR is adopted widely, which because of its availability on more platforms and with more hardware I would expect it to be, I think that it has a lot of room for growth. Imagine the capability of FSR on something like mobile, with a smaller screen the hit in quality would likely be far less noticable. Or the performance boost that it could provide consoles that don't have necessarily as much access or room for more powerful hardware (or even limitations of price points). If they improve FSR farther they could even reach a point where a little bit more implementation time (ie rendering certain things that dont AA well like thin objects individually at a higher resolution) could retain more performance while providing better information for the upscaling. I think over time if they intend to improve FSR it could bridge some of the gap between DLSS in that way. Being available to more hardware I think it has more potential and would be superior if it came a little bit closer.
@samhain4399 2 роки тому
FSR more akin to NV's DSR, than DLSS?
@paranoapollo6915 2 роки тому
It depends on what game you play. As an FPS player i need sharp visual quality. If i am playing with the sniper i need that pixel to see where is that head and release the headshot.
@DallianOfficial 2 роки тому
You can use this with 4k so has plenty of quality. I play native 2k and there is load of detail already. If u do upscale in 4k I doubt will make much difference
@paranoapollo6915 2 роки тому
@@DallianOfficial the sweet spot is 2K as you can get good quality with decent performance. Not planning to buy any 4K monitor soon. I am also unsing 2K monitor and i want to get maximum performance in exchange for minor sacrifice in the quality. DLSS 2.0 is currently better in upscalling from lower resolution like FHD and 2K. For me DLSS 2.0 is premium and FSR is just fine. Similar point of view i have about Monitor sync. Nvidia true gsync is better and it is a premium feature while AMD free sync is just good, doing the job but not that impresive as Nvidia true gsync.
@DallianOfficial 2 роки тому
@@paranoapollo6915 yes for now dlss is better but I think fsr will be much faster gaining traction due to easy implementation. If a game has dlss I will probably use it too if looks better. But there will always be games that only have fsr or implementation of dlss will come much later. Still I think using fsr in 2k won't be that much different than native if you want higher FPS.
@reinhardtwilhelm5415 2 роки тому
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@jebediahkerman4251 2 роки тому
FSR looks pretty cool, and the fact that it also works on the current next gen Consoles and even AMD iGPU's and 10 Series GPUs, though i don't think ill be able to experience this since i have a 3060 Ti, unless AMD enables it to run on 20 and 30 series cards, though again i play 1080p Ultra settings on Games i play, didnt have the big enough budget to get a 1440p which DLSS/FSR would be key, unless for an FPS boost
@KrunchyTheClown78 2 роки тому
Has the 6000 series gotten better as work cards?
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
I think you'll be locked into Nvidia for a while yet. Good news is that FSR can work on Nvidia cards, so there's that at least.
@extectic 2 роки тому
FSR is about getting you some extra frames no matter what resolution you're on, imo. If you have a 1440p screen, you go 1440p and ultra settings and have 20 more fps. For some that can be a make or break thing depending on their graphics. Plus, since it's coming on consoles as well since those are AMD, that gives AMD a huge edge for getting support for it in games.
@marshinz5696 2 роки тому
I got a 6800 XT because I was tired of not getting a 3080. I didn't know FSR was coming at the time of Purchase. It's crazy that I bought the card they are using to Market FSR out of Fatigue. Having FSR being good is a huge Bonus for me in the Future. The 6800 XT can handle most of the Beast at 2K/4K 60+ with RT features on already.
@blehbleh9283 2 роки тому
FSR being open source (source code revealed on July 15th) will also make it easier to improve and implement
@elfido_3598 2 роки тому
Great video, thanks for the update
@Abhi-qn4xv 2 роки тому
I am exciting for amd gpu but as a student who want to progress in the domain of deeplearning or ai, I would always choose nvidia over amd as deeplearning uses cuda cores which are present only in nvidia. Even if amd comes with cuda alternative, it will be difficult as cuda has big community support.
@WindHaze10 2 роки тому
Lets not forget a large amount of games are initially developed for consoles and then ported to PC. Consoles run on AMD hardware and thanks to having access to FSR it enables developers focus on it rather than DLSS. That means game is optimized for FSR, that is an absolute win for everyone. It even forces Nvidia's hand by improving next gen GPU more than ever.
@Deltax5 2 роки тому
I googled about ati. Did see it available. But has HDMI 2.1 issue I read. I would of went ATi had one long ago and was happy. I went with a 3070ti. Had to pay couple hundred dollars more from a best buy vender. Had no choice.
@arickgussler5113 2 роки тому
I have to give props to AMD for making their tech non proprietary. Not sure it was a good move for them, but it was definitely a good move for gamers. That being said, it doesn't hurt Nvidia at all, since their GPU's are supported as well. It actually gives those of us with Nvidia GPU's the advantage of being able to use either tech when it's available.
@rafaelhsouza 2 роки тому
I've seen the Digital Foundry analysis, it seems it is not a AI method. The result is OK if you use 4K with ultra quality, but Unreal engine temporal upsampling is much better, specially at lower resolutions and lower quality.
@armyofone5908 2 роки тому
DLSS 2.2 eliminates ghosting; and it will always be better at improving the image especially at lower resolutions because it has more information to upscale from. I hope FSR in future interactions adopts temporal upscaling to help improve image quality.
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
From what I've seen it helps reduce the ghosting, but it's still an issue. Hopefully some day it gets resolved.
@armyofone5908 2 роки тому
@@GraphicallyChallenged No official build has been released ; will only improve with time!
@armyofone5908 2 роки тому
FSR is great for older graphic cards ; no question. It still needs to improve at lower resolutions to make DLSS irevilant.
@Megellin 2 роки тому
Fsr and dlss is good for a few things like for children's PC (your hand me down) you don't , but hard core gaming is best done native. I find the lack of GPU stock, and abundance of scalpers a much bigger deal than fsr and dlss. A 3080 at MSRP isn't that expensive but at 3 times MSRP it's not worth buying even for your main rig.
@holytoast1963 2 роки тому
When FSR isn’t coming to Warzone 😦
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
Eventually I expect it to be in pretty much all games.
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
If FSR goes to warzone I'll probably play it some more. I admit that much
@Albert24346 2 роки тому
FSR will kill DLSS just like Freesync killed Gsync. It doesn't need to be better than DLSS. If it's easier to implement and it's available in a wider range of hardware, developers will for sure implement it and the number of titles that support it will grow very fast.
@kriflix1669 2 роки тому
Ah yes this is exactly what we needed, now all AMD has to do is get a better encoder for streaming and recording and it will officially be better.
@Dreadknight_Gaming 2 роки тому
- Physx on CUDA vs Physx now running on CPU - Gsync Display vs Free Sync Display - Nvidia Hairworks vs TressFX - DLSS vs FSR - Ongoing, FSR supports wide adaptability. DLSS 2.2 is going to counter that for the time being. AMD seems to be back in the game. All it has to do is stabilize the supply\demand, same for NVIDIA.
@crzyces1693 2 роки тому
Idk, I'm still a bit underwhelmed. I game at 1440p though, where the improved frame rates weren't worth the "water color" look FSR delivers at that res. A 25% increase at 4k was pretty darn impressive though, as even though the colors still seemed a bit _pastel'd,_ it was very minor. *IF* I had access to a 3070 or better from Nvidia or a 6700XT or better from AMD at, say 10% of MSRP, 15% depending on the quality of the AIB card then I'd be far more interested since I could just plug it into a 4k 120 TV until OLED 4k monitors had prices that aren't almost as obscene as Video Card's. Whatever the case, I'm sure they will improve, though I think machine learning may be the best way to go, even if that meant running a game overnight in "FSR/DLSS Learn Mode" or whatever. Now where that info would be stored is beyond my understanding of machine learning, as is "Would AMD need to devote cores/units to that specifically like Nvidia? Could the CPU handle that part? Maybe a $5 Arm control chip added to the board itself?" See, lots of ignorance on my end when it comes to machine learning. I'll never get my $15,000 love bot to understand me... Ha! GoOD FUn!
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
If AMD has to devote cores to doing that process, then it'll likely function in a similar way to DX12. Many cards could have it, but support different feature levels. Which would mean people like me would be stuck with the current implementation of FSR while others would benefit from the improvement by having those cores. That's something I could see them doing if they have to dedicate cores to the process.
@Alexandrecesar 2 роки тому
missing subtitled 😔.i I'm deaf
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
Sadly I just simply can't justify writing out an entire 7-10 minute video. I would have to hire someone to do it and still it would take a long time to review. I have no idea why YT stopped doing auto subtitles. It's really frustrating.
@jimperry4108 2 роки тому
great. will love testing this out months (years?) now. :(
@onlinecheatersexposed8491 2 роки тому
did you come to the conclusion or kingclusion?
@gamingmadesimple5510 2 роки тому
FSR would benefit many many more people, being able to work with APU/integrated and back compatible to RX470, RX480, GTX 980 and newer means lots of people in lower income computers and countries that can not easily get new hardware can benefit from it opening up a massive new clientele worldwide. This breathes new life into the 2nd hand market, and can potentially drive new hardware prices down since we can still performance from older cards so they have to entice us to buy new with reasonable prices.
@1forme2c 2 роки тому
FSR is not a direct competitor to DLSS - they are 2 completely different technologies. They just have similar effects. And I don't think that anyone buying a high-end card will be planning on 1080 resolutions for their gaming.
@gordong11 2 роки тому
FSR could be the best thing since sliced bread but unless games utilize it, this means nothing. At least for the next few months it will continue to be a non-factor. Plus technically if you get an Nvidia card it can support FSR anyway. I'm just saying that if you're building a PC now you really shouldn't consider FSR as a deciding point.
@cardinalmite9183 2 роки тому
Oh good another ridiculous clickbait title. FSR looks like a worthy addition and gives a nice extra option to sort of run higher resolutions with better frame rates and good that it is not tied to particular makes and models of graphics card. No it isn't as good quality vs performance as when a title has DLSS implemented well but it may be "good enough" in many situations, especially where you have an older card and can't get hold of or afford a new one. If you run it at anything below quality mode at 4k it totally has smearing issues, runnning it below ultra quality at 1440p and below also has smearing issues and calling it "Nvidia is In REALLY Big Trouble - AMD DESTROYS RTX" is absolutely retarded, poor journalism and I am increasingly considering getting my news and rumours from another site. NVidia is in many ways a pretty evil company and has done some pretty shady things, you don't counter that with stupid biased propaganda, you counter that with accurate reporting... AMD aren't angels either, they aren't doing this for the good of the gamers, they are doing this because it gets them good coverage and ultimately makes people more likely to buy their kit. given DLSS is now being added to game engines not just games, I don't think it is going to be that much of an issue for developers to implement it in games just like FSR is an easy add. Competition is good, let's not muddy the waters with amateur fanboy journalism hey?
@toonarmy8524 2 роки тому
i concur , AMD fanbois never learn , just report the facts dont bs about this is gonna destroy that etc etc.
@cardinalmite9183 2 роки тому
@@toonarmy8524 some of the NVidia fan boys are just as bad. Being any kind of fan boy for any company is just stupid. Companies are not moral beings, their sole purpose is to sell product.
@toonarmy8524 2 роки тому
@@cardinalmite9183 aye the more competition the better for everyone.
@udug3583 2 роки тому
I don't care who wins, 30sec later I hope FSR wins... lol
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
Lol I think I meant to phrase it like: I don't care if Nvidia or AMD win, I just care about what helps Gamers the most which looks to be FSR so hopefully it wins like freesync so everyone can have it.
@Street_Cyberman 2 роки тому
He actualy is *Moore's Law Is Dead's* brother.
@Captain_Chloroform 2 роки тому
We've gone from paper launches to paper ownership.
@teardowndan5364 2 роки тому
Usually, the cheaper more portable tech wins as long as it is good enough for most people.
@clausbohm9807 2 роки тому
Take a breath when you talk, I fear you will pass out ... ha ha ha! great vid, thx.
@mariospanayiotou6644 2 роки тому
If amd has its own version open for say all gpus, doesnt this mean rtx cards are still more worth it since they will have the option to use either? Sorry if its a dumb question let me know if im wrong and why 🤔
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
Yes and no. When/if a more open Ray Tracing is implemented along with FSR, that will actually technically devalue RTX to some degree as that's Nvidia's proprietary version of Ray Tracing which also has the proprietary DLSS locked to it. It starts to look like bad behavior on Nvidia's part in that scenario. It becomes very much like PhysX at that point or gameworks in general. So you're kinda not wrong since FSR will work on those cards, but then you really have to question how worth the price premium is when you can have games that support the way AMD does Ray Tracing as well as having FSR to go along with it. All while it's theoretically possible to work on more than just AMD hardware.
@larryschnellope80 2 роки тому
Dynamic res combined with FSR, combined with AMD’s CAS sharpening tech…. Might be able to run Crysis 6 at 4K on my igpu….
@tschrop25 2 роки тому
I’d love to see how FSR works compared to DLSS- especially on Turing. It’s nearly impossible to purchase Ampere, less you want to pay twice what it’s worth. I’ve already been scammed in trying to purchase a 3080 from someone, thankfully they were dumb enough to use my money to buy a phone with my money that I sent, and used THEIR OWN tracking number for PayPal. I was lucky enough to get everything back-but I won’t be buying from anyone anytime soon. “BroBot” has yielded 0 results for me in the 4 months that I used it-while miners continue to somehow get 50+ 3080/3090s. If you want random telegram alerts that yield nothing-go for it. Just keep in mind that the more people know about it, the slimmer your razor thin chances of getting a GPU get.
@RawSiafu 2 роки тому
I was hopeful for AMD FSR and somewhat disappointed. In my testing. FSR is just Resolution Scaling with Radeon Image Sharpening. I tried with AMD 5700xt and Sapphire TRIXX software. On 1440 monitor, I set the resolution scale percent to 77% (1440 to 1105), which nearly matches FSR Ultra (1440 to 1108). If I have Radeon Image Sharpening on the FPS and quantity looks the same as FSR Ultra. If I have Radeon Image Sharpening off, Resolution Scaling has higher FPS but the image is not as clear. The Radeon Image Sharping seem to have almost the exact same FPS overhead as FSR. Resolution scaling works in all games. FSR works in games that dev will specifically support.
@malathomas6141 2 роки тому
Hmm hardware unboxed disagree with you 😅.
@craighutchinson6856 2 роки тому
Amd's fine wine well for the first time AMD is given everybody a generational performance boost
@ewitte12 2 роки тому
Maybe just the (AMD sponsored) title I tried but it looked pretty bad to me compared to DLSS. Godfall at 3440*1440 with Ultra FSR.
@PeterPauls 2 роки тому
Okay, but we talking about 4K. Everybody talks about 4K, it’s great for RX 6800 XT and Ultra Quality, but with an RX 580, people aim 1080p and in 1080p it is not good, just not.
@johnsavard7583 2 роки тому
And here I thought that it was Unreal Engine 5 that destroyed ray tracing.
@TechGamer-pq1gu 2 роки тому
LOL I remember hearing a developer saying it only took them 2hours to Implement FSR on their game on one of AMD's posted videos.
@suhail-msk 2 роки тому
It depends on number of devs working on the project
@garryarganis5801 2 роки тому
FSR is not even close to DLSS 2.0 it sure is better than DLSS 1.0 and thats because DLSS 1.0 was really bad, im really excited tho for the next generation of AMD's gpus and FSR 2.0
@GraphicallyChallenged 2 роки тому
I would argue that subjectively at 4K it looks better to me because it doesn't suffer from ghosting.
@furynotes 2 роки тому
....... GTX 580? Who knows FSR would probably work on intel gma 950 intergraded graphics from 15 years ago. I mean totally FSR is totally driver proof. It can make my old dell d630 run laps around a rtx 2060 in csgo.
@voltdegameryt 2 роки тому
I hope Nvidia makes a driver to support fsr on their old gpus unless they become greedy. Well I guess Nvidia won't make the driver
@fndrn8 2 роки тому
just hope it doesnt slow game devs down too much.
@QuickS4nd 2 роки тому
Nope, it will be easy to implement so don't worry, it only depends on the devs
@DaDevilTiGER 2 роки тому
The fact that FSR is usable for booth NV and AMD is a plus for all NV GPU users, because u have a choice of booth techs. So NV can have a big advantage if they playin their cards right. Change my Mind. Gteetings from Germany to all Gamers
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
Yeah, this is something you're completely right about and I sort of hate that, but I also like that everyone can benefit from it. The issue I see though is that people may become disgruntled with Nvidia because it's their competition that's giving them something like DLSS on cards that aren't supposed to be able to do it because of the lack of tensor cores. Which just makes it look like a big excuse which could look worse if Nvidia somehow freed it up to work on older cards.
@GodisGood941 2 роки тому
Really must be nice to hold an rx 6000 series card because my card is fucked and now i have no choice but to wait or buy a new ass pc
@Arokhantos 2 роки тому
Those warranty void stickers are not legal and tells a story about every companies attitude towards warranty, do not get me wrong tho if you damage own gpu by accident its within their right to void warranty, however when you aren't damaging your product you should have every right to warranty, and you should regardless have the right to repair in every case unless whole product is burned to a crisp beyond repair.
@jamzales 2 роки тому
But is this just a passing thing. We've been here before when something new comes out but then never takes off. Will the game developers jump on the band wagon, and what of making it possible for already existing titles and older titles?
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
This is something I actually wonder about. If this could be implemented in Rocket League this could be huge.
@ostkaka0 2 роки тому
FSR is inferior to DLSS. DLSS does temporal upscaling, but FSR doesn't. Temporal upscaling allows for upscaling from a single pixel to 8k if you let the image converge for long enough, would take millions of frames with this example though. The tensor cores are not needed for temporal upscaling, I suspect the neural network only does some post processing, but Nvidia's marketing is dishonest as always. Anyways we don't need to rely on either FSR or DLSS, game engine developers are capable of developing super resolution on their own.
@shi-woonyi2605 2 роки тому
Well I don't know much about how hardware really works, but just as a random customer, to me it feels that Nvidia reduces Vram so they can produce extra hardware for ray tracing and dlss, and that I don't like I want to use my GPU's for more than just 1-2 years.. used my last one for 7 years so yeah. :/
@ArtisChronicles 2 роки тому
My RX 480 was startin to look long in the tooth. Now though? This could be what breathes new life into it.
@conmannicknameleroy3493 2 роки тому
Yea but AMD hasn't actually gotten their stock to market. Check the steam usage on those opus and you'll see the new AMD cards trading at .1% while rtf 3060 is at 4% or so.
@jouniosmala9921 2 роки тому
Neither wins, there's a better solution available eventually and both get replaced by it.
@Beos_Valrah 2 роки тому
Aha, and what would that be?
@Lalambz 2 роки тому
cant wait to fast forward 5 years later.. the intro will should be tm'ed haha!
@charizard6969 2 роки тому
I still hope dlss will get even better because now I can use both 🤣
@sasquatchcrew 2 роки тому
Nope. After using DLSS 2.0 in games, even on quality settings you lose sharpness.
@ChristianHeid7 2 роки тому
FSR vs DLSS are just other words for not actually providing full quality resolutions for the screen you are using. If you can afford top-quality screens - then you should also aim for top-quality graphics. These features might be relevant for a short time when we will see 8K screens. But there are many other logistical issues to solve before games will be created for that format. Personally - I'm more interested in HDR quality than fake resolution quality. Cause top-quality screens are doing a better job with HDR now.
@darastrixia22 2 роки тому
There is a huge difference, but everyone is just seeing red
@stevin47 2 роки тому
anyone else disappointed their "tuf gaming x570 plus wifi motherboard " has no tpm 2 on the board its a requirement for windows 11 . would not recommend this board to none since ive had it less than 1 yr
@Jubosh 2 роки тому
Windows 11 will be garbage for years just like every windows launch, no reason to be in a hurry
@michaeltulmen305 2 роки тому
I don’t qualify this as big trouble for nvidia this is a little bit of a clickbaity title but a great video nonetheless earned my like here
@Arokhantos 2 роки тому
FSR already won its supported by way more GPU's and does not take long to implement, its supported by more gpu's that AMD listed, if the gpu can run the game its supported by as low as you are willing to go, altho old games probably never gonna get FSR
@resekai 2 роки тому
So, this is how speaking without punctuation is like.
@r3conwoo 2 роки тому
so this comes into my notifications just a few moments ago and I start watching and im like ya dude this is old.
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